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You have not provided any evidence that flagging is the reason that articles about the Nokia Lumia 2520 fell off of the front page. It is entirely possible that
by martey 13y ago
You have not provided any evidence that flagging is the reason that articles about the Nokia Lumia 2520 fell off of the front page. It is entirely possible that they disappeared because not enough people were interested in upvoting marketing information about a tablet running Windows RT.
So is HN basically becoming Slashdot where Microsoft hate occurs by default?
The guidelines for this site suggest that it is bad form to compare HN to other sites, especially when your account is under a year old. They also suggest that users should not complain about downmodding (which you are doing).
I think this would have been a reasonable post if you had found evidence that articles involving Microsoft consumer electronics received more negative comments or flags that articles from other companies. Instead, the post and its comments are just a bunch of unfounded accusations of anti-Microsoft bias.
I would argue that the facts that you assumed that articles about the Lumia disappeared because people were maliciously flagging them, that you posted an extremely positive comment about it [1] without disclosing your Microsoft affiliation, and that you reposted an Engadget article about it [2] just 6 hours after it was originally submitted, and at the same time you were insulting people in the original submission's comments [3] just as troubling.
[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6590538 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6590538
[2]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6591911 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6591911
[3]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6591575 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6591575
- seanmcdirmid 13y agoThe article definitely had enough upvotes to stay on the front page; it was definitely knocked two pages back for some reason, and someone admitted to flagging. My account is more than a year old, I have 3000+ karma, and I have a low number on Slashdot as well (and made the front page in 1998). The bias is real and documented. I posted my own original comment with no expectation but to express my pleasure, most people who know me on HN know my affiliation, and it is in my user info. I didn't start fighting until the comments got very nasty. I reposted because I didn't think the article got a fair shake the first time.
- magicalist 13y ago> The bias is real and documented as I mentioned above, this is not the case. While some Microsoft stories may be knocked down the page, you would have to measure what happens to every other kind of story to know if Microsoft stories are in any way special.
- seanmcdirmid 13y agoI meant, the bias was real and documented in this case. But as pg pointed out, the article got killed because a flamewar was detected: basically a bunch of Microsoft haters took a dump on the article...and its history. In general, many MS articles make it through, and I didn't notice any overt Microsoft hate until last night (or this morning your guys time).
- bcoates 13y agoIt takes two to tango. There was a lot of "vote down and move on" behavior in that thread. Instead, people kept responding to content-free posts, which predictably got content-free re-responses--because the kind of person who says something dumb is also the kind of person that demands to get the last word in. Responding to threadshitting is a form of threadshitting. It's not very enjoyable for anyone who clicked in hoping to see interesting discussion about the subject of the link.
- freehunter 13y agoCompare the front page yesterday. Nokia news being moved off the front page, versus Mac Pro, iPad Mini, iPad Air, and Mavericks stories gaining the top spots.
- jessaustin 13y ago...made the front page in 1998. Congratulations!