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Well this is silly. Stanford graduation rates have been increasing over the past 10 years: (http://ucomm.stanford.edu/cds/2012 http://ucomm.stanford.edu/cds/201
by mrmaddog 13y ago
Well this is silly. Stanford graduation rates have been increasing over the past 10 years: (http://ucomm.stanford.edu/cds/2012 http://ucomm.stanford.edu/cds/2012 - search for point B11). 1998-2003 were all in the 90-93% range. This last year had a graduation rate of 95%. This doesn't support the opinion that students are dropping out 'en masse.' As for "professors having a financial stake in their student's work" – since when was this not the case? Professors have been dependent on grant money based on the work of their student researchers for decades; only previously, the students had no way of making money off of the work themselves.
I do think that it would be good to establish and maintain a set of ethics for professors who have a financial stake in companies, but it seems like this piece was more of a ranting projection built for page views than a thoughtful criticism on the state of the university.
Edit: And I should have researched a little more: Stanford does have a policy regarding faculty investments: http://doresearch.stanford.edu/policies/research-policy-handbook/conflicts-commitment-and-interest/faculty-policy-conflict http://doresearch.stanford.edu/policies/research-policy-hand.... Points 3 & 4 seem particularly applicably as a response:
3. Faculty must foster an atmosphere of academic freedom by
promoting the open and timely exchange of results of
scholarly activities, and ensuring that their advising of
students (defined for this policy to include postdoctoral
scholars and other trainees) and their supervision of staff
are independent of personal financial interests. Faculty
should inform students and colleagues about outside
obligations that might influence the free exchange of
scholarly information between them and the faculty member.
4. Faculty may not use University resources or personnel,
including facilities, staff, students or other trainees,
equipment, or confidential information, except in a purely
incidental way, as part of their outside consulting or
business activities or for any other purposes that are
unrelated to the education, research, scholarship, and public
service missions of the University.
- 001sky 13y agoIs Stanford still a university? You're missing the point of the question. The real question is, is stanford legitimately a non-profit institution? That's not a 'silly' question, and it has material implications.
- dekhn 13y agoAmerican universities are for profit entities (corporations). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayh%E2%80%93Dole_Act http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayh%E2%80%93Dole_Act Before the Bayh–Dole Act, federal research funding contracts and grants obligated inventors (where ever they worked) to assign inventions they made using federal funding to the federal government.[3] Bayh-Dole permits a university, small business, or non-profit institution to elect to pursue ownership of an invention in preference to the government.[4] Stanford, further, is a private institution. See, for example, their investment company: http://www.smc.stanford.edu/ http://www.smc.stanford.edu/ which is part of the university and is overseen by the Board. They certainly don't qualify (nor do public universities like UC) as non-profits; they don't reinvest all their earnings into their operating budget. Investors in Stanford receive a return on the growth of the endowment.
- 001sky 13y agoThe University is a tax-exempt institution under section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code. https://ogc.stanford.edu/stanford-legal-facts#q1 https://ogc.stanford.edu/stanford-legal-facts#q1 A 501(c) organization, also known colloquially as a... "nonprofit", is an American tax-exempt nonprofit organization.
- aetherson 13y agoYes, following on to 001sky, for-profit American universities do exist -- they're things like University of Phoenix or DeVry. All of the traditional residential big-name universities that you're probably thinking of, however, are not-for-profits.
- dekhn 13y agoPlease see my reply on the other thread. I have demonstrated that the IRS found compliance issues in 503c universities which is clear demonstration of my point.
- dekhn 13y ago