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We can't have anything involving PHP without: * complaints about features it has or has not * a reference to that "a fractal of bad design" article * how lan
by pearjuice 13y ago
We can't have anything involving PHP without:
* complaints about features it has or has not
* a reference to that "a fractal of bad design" article
* how language x is better
* sarcastic notes about the above
* one guy pointing out we can't have anything involving PHP without the above
- Udo 13y agoOverall you're right, this is what irritates me about almost any PHP thread as well. Almost no HNer would go into, say, a C++ thread, spit on it and advertise Python. But yet the same thing is happening regularly with PHP. Then again, I was pleasantly surprised we don't have that in this thread (yet). However, I don't think this is a worthwhile URL to point to on the grounds of near-irrelevance. There are no major new features being released here.
- pearjuice 13y ago>Then again, I was pleasantly surprised we don't have that in this thread (yet). By any chance, do you have "show dead" turned off? Because you are missing out.
- Udo 13y agoOoops, you're right :) But those are dead for a reason, I wouldn't include them when judging a thread anyway.
- astrodust 13y agoThe reason Python people don't go into a C++ thread is because the C++ people will take care of themselves, getting into bitter trench warfare over wether X feature was a good idea, a great idea, or the worst idea ever. PHP, Python, Ruby, Perl and C# have a lot of overlap in terms of what they do, but the overlap between C++ and Python is way smaller. C#, C++ and Java have much more in common. There are some things that C++ is very good at, where the alternative is usually C, something most would prefer to avoid. There's nothing that PHP is very good at that Python, Ruby, Perl or C# can't do nearly as well. That's why it attracts so much criticism.
- ericd 13y agoEase of deployment? Nothing really compares to mod_php
- M4N14C 13y agoPassenger. It's a thing and it works great.
- eevee 13y agoThis is a huge problem, and has the added wrinkle that all the people qualified to solve it won't, because it doesn't apply to the stuff they're deploying and they're clever enough to not need it solved anyway.
- rofl 13y agoThis is a huge problem in you if you don't know how to use your tool as a developer. PHP is just a tool. If you don't like this tool called PHP, use another tool like Snake or Python or whatever, and be happy. Have you seen a top carpenter ever to go to another carpenter to complain about the hammer used by the other carpenter? Edit: Formatting
- eevee 13y agoI think you're confused. The huge problem is that other languages don't have anything for deployment that looks as easy as mod_php. And yes, all manner of professions grumble amongst themselves that newcomers are using inferior tools. Find some professional photographers and ask what they think of phone cameras.
- rofl 13y agoThe huge problem is you are complaining about tools used by other developers. Pick up tools that work best for you and let others choose tools that work best for them. There is no inferior tool in this world. You select a tool based on your need, affordability and choice. The important part is not the tool itself, it is what you make with your tool. We remember Leonardo da Vinci for his creations, not for the tools he had used to make those creations happen. As of now, the most popular cameras in Flickr community are Apple iPhone 5, Apple iPhone 4S and Apple iPhone 4. All of these are phone cameras. You can see awesome photographs taken with these cameras. If you make a rule to accept photographs taken only using expensive DSLRs, sites like Flickr will not exist. And the world will be little less beautiful without sites like Flickr. By the way, Flickr is also powered by PHP.
- eevee 13y agoRight, because we'd spit on it and advertise Rust or Go.
- adventured 13y agoNo doubt tech fashionistas tend to be as obnoxious as the same elitist attitude applied anywhere else.