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Safari 4 tops 11 million downloads in 3 days (6 million from Windows users)

8 points by barredo 17y ago

amichail 17y ago
I'm using it as my main browser, but it has issues: * can't tell easily whether current page is bookmarked * address bar only supports url completion (i.e., no search by url/title keyword, but you can use Google Quick Search Box for that); Chrome has the best address bar IMO * the preview screenshots are cool, but the title of the page should be displayed below each screenshot (many screenshots tend to look the same) * no way to force new windows to appear as new tabs
- CalmQuiet 17y ago
  Regarding your point #3: mousing over a screenshot does give you both Title and URL of a given page
- baddox 17y ago
  My biggest usability issue (at least since the 4 beta) is the tab behavior. It just doesn't work like I expect it to.
- jarrodtaylor 17y ago
  The tab thing is a hidden pref. http://www.switchingtomac.com/tutorials/how-to-force-safari-4-to-open-links-in-a-new-tab-instead-of-a-new-window/ http://www.switchingtomac.com/tutorials/how-to-force-safari-...
- slig 17y ago
  I tried, but I couldn't use more than a few minutes: * no refresh button * the stop button is not where I think it should be * middle click doesn't open a new tab * command + 1, 2, 3 doesn't change tabs, instead it goes to the 1st, 2nd bookmark, which is very annoying
  - xenophanes 17y ago
    to give something a fair trial you need to look up and try using the hotkeys it does have. cmd-click opens a new tab. cmd-shift [] or left/right arrow changes tabs.
    - slig 17y ago
      Agree, but cmd-shift forces me to change the tabs in order, and I like the random access from cmd-1/2/3 ..
  - boucher 17y ago
    There is a refresh button. And if your mouse is properly configured, middle click does open a new tab.
- xenophanes 17y ago
  you can make new windows open in a tab instead by holding command, or by using google and quickly finding something like this defaults write com.apple.Safari TargetedClicksCreateTabs -bool true
josefresco 17y ago
I Tweeted this but I'll repeat it here; I would imagine a high percentage of these downloads (50%?) were users who 'unwittingly' downloaded Safari 4 while downloading updates to other Apple software like iTunes and Quicktime. Apple's attempt at 'bundling' Safari with every iTunes update is quite annoying personally but it sure helps to inflate those download numbers. Also does this number count 'upgrades' from Safari 3? .. off to RTFA
- antiismist 17y ago
  I'm not sure this is the case, because yesterday I did all of the updates that Apple advised, but I didn't get Safari 4 with that. Today I manually downloaded it. For what it's worth, it is significantly faster than Safari 3.
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TallGuyShort 17y ago
I'm not a big fan of these statistics that get publicized about how many downloads a product gets during it's opening days. I downloaded Safari 4, but just to try it out. I download a lot of things just so that I can base my opinion of them off of first-hand experience. Once I'm satisifed, I return to my product of choice - in this case Firefox. I keep tabs on all the browsers to see the new features, etc... but that download doesn't mean I'm actually interested in using it.
- tvon 17y ago
  Yes, but the number of downloads still measures a level of interest. I don't think anyone thinks that those downloads represent switchers or full time Safari users, but it's still a significant number.

8 points by barredo 17y ago

I'm using it as my main browser, but it has issues: * can't tell easily whether current page is bookmarked * address bar only supports url completion (i.e., no search by url/title keyword, but you can use Google Quick Search Box for that); Chrome has the best address bar IMO * the preview screenshots are cool, but the title of the page should be displayed below each screenshot (many screenshots tend to look the same) * no way to force new windows to appear as new tabs

CalmQuiet 17y ago
Regarding your point #3: mousing over a screenshot does give you both Title and URL of a given page
baddox 17y ago
My biggest usability issue (at least since the 4 beta) is the tab behavior. It just doesn't work like I expect it to.
jarrodtaylor 17y ago
The tab thing is a hidden pref. http://www.switchingtomac.com/tutorials/how-to-force-safari-4-to-open-links-in-a-new-tab-instead-of-a-new-window/ http://www.switchingtomac.com/tutorials/how-to-force-safari-...
slig 17y ago
I tried, but I couldn't use more than a few minutes: * no refresh button * the stop button is not where I think it should be * middle click doesn't open a new tab * command + 1, 2, 3 doesn't change tabs, instead it goes to the 1st, 2nd bookmark, which is very annoying
- xenophanes 17y ago
  to give something a fair trial you need to look up and try using the hotkeys it does have. cmd-click opens a new tab. cmd-shift [] or left/right arrow changes tabs.
  - slig 17y ago
    Agree, but cmd-shift forces me to change the tabs in order, and I like the random access from cmd-1/2/3 ..
- boucher 17y ago
  There is a refresh button. And if your mouse is properly configured, middle click does open a new tab.
xenophanes 17y ago
you can make new windows open in a tab instead by holding command, or by using google and quickly finding something like this defaults write com.apple.Safari TargetedClicksCreateTabs -bool true

josefresco 17y ago

I Tweeted this but I'll repeat it here; I would imagine a high percentage of these downloads (50%?) were users who 'unwittingly' downloaded Safari 4 while downloading updates to other Apple software like iTunes and Quicktime. Apple's attempt at 'bundling' Safari with every iTunes update is quite annoying personally but it sure helps to inflate those download numbers. Also does this number count 'upgrades' from Safari 3? .. off to RTFA

antiismist 17y ago
I'm not sure this is the case, because yesterday I did all of the updates that Apple advised, but I didn't get Safari 4 with that. Today I manually downloaded it. For what it's worth, it is significantly faster than Safari 3.

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TallGuyShort 17y ago

I'm not a big fan of these statistics that get publicized about how many downloads a product gets during it's opening days. I downloaded Safari 4, but just to try it out. I download a lot of things just so that I can base my opinion of them off of first-hand experience. Once I'm satisifed, I return to my product of choice - in this case Firefox. I keep tabs on all the browsers to see the new features, etc... but that download doesn't mean I'm actually interested in using it.

tvon 17y ago
Yes, but the number of downloads still measures a level of interest. I don't think anyone thinks that those downloads represent switchers or full time Safari users, but it's still a significant number.