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This. +100. I'm growing increasingly uncomfortable with the Apple ecosystem. iProducts, iCloud, etc. I can't transfer this to that cause I'm not allowed, click

This. +100. I'm growing increasingly uncomfortable with the Apple ecosystem. iProducts, iCloud, etc. I can't transfer this to that cause I'm not allowed, click here to accept this, turn on location services so we can track you - on your laptop. It's getting to be too much. What's the best laptop for running any Ubuntu flavored desktop?

mindcrime 13y ago
Are you wedded to Ubuntu? If not, Fedora is a pretty nice distro as well...
- aclevernickname 13y ago
  Most linux users start on Redhat/Fedora, and quickly leave due to the pain that is RPM. I left to gentoo. Most others take the debian/ubuntu path.
  - mindcrime 13y ago
    That might have been the received wisdom a decade ago, but YUM/RPM work about as well as apt-get now, and - to be quite honest - I prefer YUM. I like, for example, that I use the same command to search for packages as to install them, instead of having to remember that on Ubuntu it's "apt-cache search FOO" instead. shrug YMMV.
    - aclevernickname 13y ago
      perhaps my previous post was too polite. People that never actually _care_ to learn linux go from Redhat to Ubuntu (or stay right where they are!). People with an interest in the OS itself move to Gentoo/Funtoo/LFS. I still use CentOS to this day (Asterisk), it's painful.
- logn 13y ago
  I use Xubuntu now because every cloud vps has an Ubuntu option, and I like the consistency of developing on the same OS as the servers I later deploy to.
claudius 13y ago
> What's the best laptop for running any Ubuntu flavored desktop? Thinkpads (the actual ones, not the cheap Ideapad-in-a-black-case-things). Of course, you don’t really save money compared to a Macbook, but the hardware appears (to me) much sturdier.
- thrill 13y ago
  I use Ubuntu (with Unity) on a 15 Samsung Series 9. Wish they'd come out with the higher resolution version of the 15".
buro9 13y ago
I switched a couple of years back, I'd highly recommend the Lenovo X series though any Lenovo is well-supported. The only thing that didn't work instantly and perfectly on my Lenovo X220 the last time I built it (2 years ago) was the fingerprint reader, but as I use Yubikey I was OK with this (plus I found an online guide to getting it working that seemed pretty comprehensive and people were raving about).
AdamN 13y ago
People really like Samsung laptops for Linux as well.
pimeys 13y ago
I'm using the Asus Zenbook UX32VD and everything works pretty flawlessly. Even suspend.
anko 13y ago
Is it just me or is ubuntu getting worse? I really thought it was good when it was gnome 2, and then they moved to unity, seemingly targeting netbooks. Now nobody has a netbook, and they are talking about phones and other such nonsense. I generally run an ubuntu vm on osx, because i love the linux command line ecosystem, but as time goes on I find myself needing to customise more and more just to get a sane base configuration. I really don't understand why ubuntu doesn't focus on their niche - giving developers a nice dev environment and then slowly working to stabilise apis and turn it into a platform. Then they can think about other stuff. At the moment they are trying to compete with companies that are much larger, with much more budget.
gnaffle 13y ago
I think most MacBooks are good for running Linux as well, if you like the build quality and features of the Mac. The Ubuntu Wiki has a good rundown of how well the different models are supported. That said, I think Apple has done a pretty good job of being respectful of privacy. You are asked explicitly whether to share information (location services etc) and you can always say no. Compare this to the latest Ubuntu release where your local file searches are being sent to Amazon as a default feature.

mindcrime 13y ago

Are you wedded to Ubuntu? If not, Fedora is a pretty nice distro as well...

aclevernickname 13y ago
Most linux users start on Redhat/Fedora, and quickly leave due to the pain that is RPM. I left to gentoo. Most others take the debian/ubuntu path.
- mindcrime 13y ago
  That might have been the received wisdom a decade ago, but YUM/RPM work about as well as apt-get now, and - to be quite honest - I prefer YUM. I like, for example, that I use the same command to search for packages as to install them, instead of having to remember that on Ubuntu it's "apt-cache search FOO" instead. shrug YMMV.
  - aclevernickname 13y ago
    perhaps my previous post was too polite. People that never actually _care_ to learn linux go from Redhat to Ubuntu (or stay right where they are!). People with an interest in the OS itself move to Gentoo/Funtoo/LFS. I still use CentOS to this day (Asterisk), it's painful.
logn 13y ago
I use Xubuntu now because every cloud vps has an Ubuntu option, and I like the consistency of developing on the same OS as the servers I later deploy to.

claudius 13y ago

> What's the best laptop for running any Ubuntu flavored desktop? Thinkpads (the actual ones, not the cheap Ideapad-in-a-black-case-things). Of course, you don’t really save money compared to a Macbook, but the hardware appears (to me) much sturdier.

thrill 13y ago
I use Ubuntu (with Unity) on a 15 Samsung Series 9. Wish they'd come out with the higher resolution version of the 15".

buro9 13y ago

I switched a couple of years back, I'd highly recommend the Lenovo X series though any Lenovo is well-supported. The only thing that didn't work instantly and perfectly on my Lenovo X220 the last time I built it (2 years ago) was the fingerprint reader, but as I use Yubikey I was OK with this (plus I found an online guide to getting it working that seemed pretty comprehensive and people were raving about).

AdamN 13y ago

People really like Samsung laptops for Linux as well.

pimeys 13y ago

I'm using the Asus Zenbook UX32VD and everything works pretty flawlessly. Even suspend.

anko 13y ago

Is it just me or is ubuntu getting worse? I really thought it was good when it was gnome 2, and then they moved to unity, seemingly targeting netbooks. Now nobody has a netbook, and they are talking about phones and other such nonsense. I generally run an ubuntu vm on osx, because i love the linux command line ecosystem, but as time goes on I find myself needing to customise more and more just to get a sane base configuration. I really don't understand why ubuntu doesn't focus on their niche - giving developers a nice dev environment and then slowly working to stabilise apis and turn it into a platform. Then they can think about other stuff. At the moment they are trying to compete with companies that are much larger, with much more budget.

gnaffle 13y ago

I think most MacBooks are good for running Linux as well, if you like the build quality and features of the Mac. The Ubuntu Wiki has a good rundown of how well the different models are supported. That said, I think Apple has done a pretty good job of being respectful of privacy. You are asked explicitly whether to share information (location services etc) and you can always say no. Compare this to the latest Ubuntu release where your local file searches are being sent to Amazon as a default feature.