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I love Elon Musk, but jesus christ, way to make the rest of us feel utterly human.

by runawaybottle 13y ago

visakanv 13y ago
I'm beginning to be convinced he has some sort of mutation, seriously
- 011011100 13y ago
  We all have some sort of mutation.
  - visakanv 13y ago
    TIL
phaus 13y ago
I'm impressed by his scientific endeavors, but I have a hard time forgiving him for Paypal.
- jotm 13y ago
  You mean the payment system that revolutionized online transactions between individuals and small companies? Remember how hard it was to pay a freelancer/individual/small company for a service or product online before Paypal? It was very hard since banks would not approve merchant accounts for every bum that walked into their office :-), and don't even start on international transactions. The fact that people started abusing them in unimaginable ways (prompting the draconian security measures) is not exactly Musk's fault, and the frozen account issues of the past years might be over once the competition finally gets its shit together (or at least there's other options now)...
- IsaacL 13y ago
  Common lore has it that PayPal's problems began largely after eBay bought them - half their initial staff left after the first year. Early PayPal was very elitist and performance-driven, wheras eBay is famously bureaucratic.
- unepipe 13y ago
  It seems you are trying to be cute/follow the meme that it's good to hate on PayPal because of the account freezes and stuff as of late. However, before PayPal it was so hard to make a payment or transfer money to someone. They deserved the success they had for a groundbreaking product. Hating on Musk for decisions the company has made more recently is pure folly.
  - phaus 13y ago
    >It seems you are trying to be cute/follow the meme... Because no one that's capable of independent thought will come to a different conclusion than you did right? There's no need to be condescending just because you don't agree with me. Paypal is a shitty company because it fails to support sellers in any meaningful way. Part of this stems from the fact that it isn't a financial institution, so it will always lose to industry standard financial institutions if it tries to fight fraudulent charge backs. Unfortunately this renders the service close to useless for anyone trying to sell anything that's worth more than about $20. It works great if you want to buy something, because you have a 100% chance of getting your money back if the seller doesn't come through. Unfortunately, people committing fraud against sellers also have a 100% chance of getting their money back, because Paypal doesn't even attempt to investigate these situations properly.
    - phaus 13y ago
      Instead of silently down-voting, why don't you counter with information that supports the opposite? Perhaps you know someone who has a good experience as a vendor that uses Paypal. Sadly, I myself know multiple dealers that shut their accounts down after they got tired of losing money to thieves.
      - unepipe 13y ago
        Again... not Musk.
PakG1 13y ago
Correspondingly, way to make himself sound like an utter robot. It goes both ways.
- WalterSear 13y ago
  Or someone who is completely out of touch with himself.
- aortega 13y ago
  He sounds like a 40 year old men. I don't think mature persons should need any extra motivation to do work.
worldsayshi 13y ago
I don't think that "drive" is anything mysterious at all. It's somewhat the same drive that cause people to play rpg:s for hours and hours going into weeks. Not exactly the same obviously, but related.
- nyrina 13y ago
  I don't think it's the same at all, in the case of RPGs it's the carrot at the end of the stick that drives you. "If I just get +5 strength, I'll be the most awesome guy!"
  - worldsayshi 13y ago
    It requires you to deal with much more of "delayed reward". The ability to deal with such has been described as a feature common to successful people. What I mean is that the strive towards the end goal doesn't have to be primarily rational, although for "delayed reward" to work I suspect that your sense of reward must be a bit more "closely tied to rationality".
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I love Elon Musk, but jesus christ, way to make the rest of us feel utterly human.

visakanv 13y ago

I'm beginning to be convinced he has some sort of mutation, seriously

011011100 13y ago
We all have some sort of mutation.
- visakanv 13y ago
  TIL

phaus 13y ago

I'm impressed by his scientific endeavors, but I have a hard time forgiving him for Paypal.

jotm 13y ago
You mean the payment system that revolutionized online transactions between individuals and small companies? Remember how hard it was to pay a freelancer/individual/small company for a service or product online before Paypal? It was very hard since banks would not approve merchant accounts for every bum that walked into their office :-), and don't even start on international transactions. The fact that people started abusing them in unimaginable ways (prompting the draconian security measures) is not exactly Musk's fault, and the frozen account issues of the past years might be over once the competition finally gets its shit together (or at least there's other options now)...
IsaacL 13y ago
Common lore has it that PayPal's problems began largely after eBay bought them - half their initial staff left after the first year. Early PayPal was very elitist and performance-driven, wheras eBay is famously bureaucratic.
unepipe 13y ago
It seems you are trying to be cute/follow the meme that it's good to hate on PayPal because of the account freezes and stuff as of late. However, before PayPal it was so hard to make a payment or transfer money to someone. They deserved the success they had for a groundbreaking product. Hating on Musk for decisions the company has made more recently is pure folly.
- phaus 13y ago
  >It seems you are trying to be cute/follow the meme... Because no one that's capable of independent thought will come to a different conclusion than you did right? There's no need to be condescending just because you don't agree with me. Paypal is a shitty company because it fails to support sellers in any meaningful way. Part of this stems from the fact that it isn't a financial institution, so it will always lose to industry standard financial institutions if it tries to fight fraudulent charge backs. Unfortunately this renders the service close to useless for anyone trying to sell anything that's worth more than about $20. It works great if you want to buy something, because you have a 100% chance of getting your money back if the seller doesn't come through. Unfortunately, people committing fraud against sellers also have a 100% chance of getting their money back, because Paypal doesn't even attempt to investigate these situations properly.
  - phaus 13y ago
    Instead of silently down-voting, why don't you counter with information that supports the opposite? Perhaps you know someone who has a good experience as a vendor that uses Paypal. Sadly, I myself know multiple dealers that shut their accounts down after they got tired of losing money to thieves.
    - unepipe 13y ago
      Again... not Musk.

PakG1 13y ago

Correspondingly, way to make himself sound like an utter robot. It goes both ways.

WalterSear 13y ago
Or someone who is completely out of touch with himself.
aortega 13y ago
He sounds like a 40 year old men. I don't think mature persons should need any extra motivation to do work.

worldsayshi 13y ago

I don't think that "drive" is anything mysterious at all. It's somewhat the same drive that cause people to play rpg:s for hours and hours going into weeks. Not exactly the same obviously, but related.

nyrina 13y ago
I don't think it's the same at all, in the case of RPGs it's the carrot at the end of the stick that drives you. "If I just get +5 strength, I'll be the most awesome guy!"
- worldsayshi 13y ago
  It requires you to deal with much more of "delayed reward". The ability to deal with such has been described as a feature common to successful people. What I mean is that the strive towards the end goal doesn't have to be primarily rational, although for "delayed reward" to work I suspect that your sense of reward must be a bit more "closely tied to rationality".

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