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What drove me to Chrome at the time was the resource hunger and the inferior UI of Firefox, not the video thing. If DRM is the consensus, Mozilla should (and pr
by Udo 13y ago
What drove me to Chrome at the time was the resource hunger and the inferior UI of Firefox, not the video thing. If DRM is the consensus, Mozilla should (and probably for technical reasons must) have the contrarian opinion. It would be enough to make me switch back, actually.
- PhasmaFelis 13y agoI like Chrome. I think it's a better browser than Firefox. Having to switch back, after several years settling into Chrome's extensions and configurations, would really piss me off. But I'll do it if Chrome implements this bullshit and Firefox doesn't. Wonder if I've still got tabs saved from the last time I seriously used Firefox, years ago. Probably not...
- jotm 13y agoDoes it finally have good flash and JS blockers? Regardless, i hate the tab system and address bar search in Chrome, wish it was like Firefox's, then I'd switch because it's faster...
- nine_k 13y agoBookmark all tabs, exit one browser, open another, import the bookmarks. Mozilla and Chrome can import each other's bookmarks. BTW I switched to Firefox on my laptop since it seems to be much less resource-hungry than Chrome. Not painful.
- babby 13y agoI use both browsers regularly, but Firefox out of preference. It amazes me at how under performing chrome has become over the years. Font rendering, for one. The fact that they STILL don't have DirectWrite font rendering on Windows, something that has been with IE and FF since FF 3.6, amazes me. Good luck trying to get a webfont to render the same (or look any good) in Chrome as it does in IE and FF on Winderps. The sheer fact that it isn't IE for once... The font thing, while somewhat recent in usage, should have been in Chrome ages ago. Not going to bother getting into Chromes other more critical flaws as I feel like these threads devolve into this kind of shit too easily. Just sucks that Chrome has gone from this cool browser that actually is progressive, to some kind of Ad-friendly extension of Google that just qualifies as "better than IE!". Methinks you should jump on FF, it's better, and not because it may not support some arbitrary HTMl5 spec that we wont see for half a decade.
- OWaz 13y agoThe thing about Chrome is that while the font rendering is horrible the dev tools are super awesome. At work I end up using FF for reading text and Chrome for inspecting/debugging.
- chris_wot 13y agoWhat's your opinion of Firefox's new developer tools?
- chrismonsanto 13y agoFirebug is much better. - Tools like YSlow and PageSpeed require Firebug. - You can't disable the browser cache from FF devtools, which really sucks when you are trying to debug a broken redirect. - When inspecting an element in FF devtools, :before and :after CSS properties will not be shown. I wasted many hours debugging a CSS refactor because of this (imagine going up the DOM, comparing computed CSS properties until you reach the root). Both Firebug and Chrome devtools will show :before and :after properties. I think Firebug and the Chrome devtools are comparable in quality.
- madeofpalk 13y ago> Chrome devtools will show :before and :after properties. And on that, I was plesently surprised to see Chrome will now display :before and :after psuedo elements in the DOM structure
- trycatch 13y ago> When inspecting an element in FF devtools, :before and :after CSS properties will not be shown. It was fixed recently. https://hacks.mozilla.org/2013/09/new-features-in-the-firefox-developer-tools-episode-26/ https://hacks.mozilla.org/2013/09/new-features-in-the-firefo...
- cromwellian 13y agoCan you even debug a web worker with Firebug? How about SourceMap support? The times when I've had to switch to FF devtools have been pretty painful. The profiling and tracing tools in chrome also seem lightyears better.
- thaumasiotes 13y agoI switched from firefox to chrome because of firefox's chronic memory leaks, and decided to live without extensions. Now I've switched back because firefox won't attempt to load tabs until you actually focus them.
- aragot 13y ago+1, switched to Chrome with regret, because of Ff's bloating UI in 3-3.6 and its accompanying slowness. -1 to the logic of switching "if they implement drm": If your drmized content isn't available in FF, you'll have all incentives to come back. Unfortunately.
- cabalamat 13y ago> -1 to the logic of switching "if they implement drm": If your drmized content isn't available in FF, you'll have all incentives to come back. No I won't. I'll either find an uncrippled version of the content -- for example on TPB -- or I simply won't look at it. DRM is a perversion of the WWW, and Berners-Lee is wrong to allow his invention to be sullied in this way. The web has been successful because it consists of open standards which means anyone can build on it. Just as tcp/ip is an open standard and Berners-Lee didn't need anyone's permission to build http and html. Take away that openness, and you'll be destroying something very valuable. If the MAFIAA don't like the open web and want a locked-down system, let them build their own. I'm sure it'll be every bit as successful as Windows RT or the Ford Edsel were.
- untog 13y agoI think aragot was using 'you' to mean 'the user'. While you may be motivated to find uncrippled versions of the content, you can rest assured that the vast majority of users will not, and will just switch browser.
- cabalamat 13y agoYou're probably right, although having said that I know lots of people who don't have an IT background who use BitTorrent because it is less hassle than DRM.
- devcpp 13y agoPlease consider switching back to FF, at least for the same reasons, if not for all the other ones (FOSS, no backdoors and so on). If you want the same look as Chrome, try the UX nightlies. Butter smooth too. Best browser ever.
- fafner 13y agoGive FF a try again. It has vastly improved since FF 3.6.
- PhasmaFelis 13y agoYeah, sounds like this is a good time to do that.
- toyg 13y agoChrome already implements it [1], it's in your browser right now. I personally use Safari, but if Mozilla supports this pledge, I'll move back. [1] https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/list?can=1&q=EME&colspec=ID+Pri+M+Iteration+ReleaseBlock+Cr+Status+Owner+Summary+OS+Modified&x=m&y=releaseblock&cells=tiles https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/list?can=1&q=EME&c...
- chris_wot 13y agoIt's a draft that's still changing. How are they supporting a moving target?
- zobzu 13y agoupdate every 6 weeks
- mkr-hn 13y agoI switched back to Firefox when Chrome's performance slid to the point where it was unusable after a day. I forgot what it was like to have middle click work correctly.
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- Fuxy 13y agoI'm probably the only guy here that never switched to Chrome. I wasn't impressed by it's lack of functionality when it launched and didn't think giving up functionality i use for speed was a good idea. Then Firefox became faster and now i got the best of both worlds though Chrome did grow over that time and now they have everything I would need but I have no reason to switch. I really hope Firefox puts its foot down and refuses to implement DRM I mean it's an open source browser this should be unacceptable.
- gglitch 13y agoI also never switched, for ideological reasons. I've been hooked by the Mozilla Foundation's consistent messaging on freedom.
- themstheones 13y agoThe only thing they ever did wrong in firefox was removing <blink>. It was in the Book of Mozilla; you can't contradict that.
- fauigerzigerk 13y agoI switched back to Firefox from Chrome a few months ago (I still use Chrome for Gmail) because I found that the resource consumption issue has been turned on its head.
- liljimmytables 13y agoThis has been my experience too. Also the search bar is fantastic in Firefox.
- fauigerzigerk 13y agoTrue. Tab switching with % <search term> is extremely convenient.