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>>>> This is unprecedented. And quite frightening. It makes you think how many more companies are out there where the owners just decided to give in and allow

• samstave 13y ago
  All of them. Every ISP. I recall though, in the past that Earthlink was the only ISP who refused to install a Carnivore device on their network... but that was only because the Church of Scientology, who owned/started Earthlink, was already monitoring all traffic.
• chii 13y ago
  I think these secret (or gag) orders should be illegal. Having the ability to subpoena info with the correct court procedures and transparency is fine (and important ability to fight crime with), but these court orders needs to be completely public, and under scrutiny from watch dogs and civil liberties groups. Because power corrupts, and given such absolute power, it will surely corrupt absolutely.
  • samstave 13y ago
    I believe they go against the 1st and 4th amendments.
    • ds9 13y ago
      In the particular case where the business subject to the orders is trying to provide privacy or secure communications services, the secret orders to enable spying on all the users also violates the 5th amendment. In such a case, the order commands the operator to destroy the basis of his business. This is a "taking" without compensation in direct violation of the 5th amendment. It takes all the goodwill the business has built up and the ability to continue in the line of business, removing all the value the owner has invested in.