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Does this mean the FSF can cross off 'free flash player' from their high priority list? What will happen to Gnash?

broodbucket 13y ago
I'm guessing something like HURD, some people will still work on it but it won't be the focus of anything. I haven't had any success with Gnash, it can (choppily) play YouTube (which now has HTML5) and nothing else worked.
- Bill_Dimm 13y ago
  YouTube (which now has HTML5) Sadly, YouTube videos that have embedded ads seem to be Flash-only.
  - broodbucket 13y ago
    You can still watch them with HTML5 using this addon for Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/youtube-all-html5/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/youtube-all-h... I'm assuming there's a Chrome equivalent. I've completely disabled Flash in my browser now. Feels good.
Jasper_ 13y ago
Rob Sayove, the Gnash lead, was at the GNU 30th, and he's said he's basically done with Gnash. There's going to be an upcoming release, and then it's done. He was a bit concerned about the state of Flash, but Shumway gave him some hopes for the future. (I am also a Shumway contributor)
zeckalpha 13y ago
This isn't GPL, so I'm assuming work will go on.
- davexunit 13y ago
  It is Apache v2 licensed, which means that Shumway is free software. So, if Shumway functions adequately then I imagine that the FSF will consider the task complete. Believe it or not, the FSF and the GNU project don't demand that everything be GPL licensed.
  - pjmlp 13y ago
    Which is great for the companies that take open source into their products and never return anything back.
    - davexunit 13y ago
      I understand, which is why I personally prefer to use copyleft licenses. However, non-copyleft licenses like Apache v2 are still compatible with free software.
    - icebraining 13y ago
      GPL isn't about (nor does it require) licensees to contribute anything back.
      - pjmlp 13y ago
        Hence the need of AGPL. I do a lot of development with closed source software as well, but when I do open source, I take the point of only using copyleft licenses.
        icebraining 13y ago
        The AGPL doesn't either. We have a product based on a third-party AGPL licensed codebase and we're fully compliant even if we don't contribute everything back. You should really read up on the licenses and the intent behind them; contributing back was never the point.
        Dylan16807 13y ago
Doctor_Fegg 13y ago
The Gnash guys have done a lot of good work, but for a native open-source Flash player, Lightspark became the project to watch some time ago: http://lightspark.github.io/ http://lightspark.github.io/
- X4 13y ago
  Thanks I didn't know about www-plugins/lightspark =) Gonna compile/install it, because adobe-flash is crashing for me all the time.

I'm guessing something like HURD, some people will still work on it but it won't be the focus of anything. I haven't had any success with Gnash, it can (choppily) play YouTube (which now has HTML5) and nothing else worked.

Bill_Dimm 13y ago
YouTube (which now has HTML5) Sadly, YouTube videos that have embedded ads seem to be Flash-only.
- broodbucket 13y ago
  You can still watch them with HTML5 using this addon for Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/youtube-all-html5/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/youtube-all-h... I'm assuming there's a Chrome equivalent. I've completely disabled Flash in my browser now. Feels good.

Jasper_ 13y ago

Rob Sayove, the Gnash lead, was at the GNU 30th, and he's said he's basically done with Gnash. There's going to be an upcoming release, and then it's done. He was a bit concerned about the state of Flash, but Shumway gave him some hopes for the future. (I am also a Shumway contributor)

zeckalpha 13y ago

This isn't GPL, so I'm assuming work will go on.

davexunit 13y ago
It is Apache v2 licensed, which means that Shumway is free software. So, if Shumway functions adequately then I imagine that the FSF will consider the task complete. Believe it or not, the FSF and the GNU project don't demand that everything be GPL licensed.
- pjmlp 13y ago
  Which is great for the companies that take open source into their products and never return anything back.
  - davexunit 13y ago
    I understand, which is why I personally prefer to use copyleft licenses. However, non-copyleft licenses like Apache v2 are still compatible with free software.
  - icebraining 13y ago
    GPL isn't about (nor does it require) licensees to contribute anything back.
    - pjmlp 13y ago
      Hence the need of AGPL. I do a lot of development with closed source software as well, but when I do open source, I take the point of only using copyleft licenses.
      - icebraining 13y ago
        The AGPL doesn't either. We have a product based on a third-party AGPL licensed codebase and we're fully compliant even if we don't contribute everything back. You should really read up on the licenses and the intent behind them; contributing back was never the point.
      - Dylan16807 13y ago

Doctor_Fegg 13y ago

The Gnash guys have done a lot of good work, but for a native open-source Flash player, Lightspark became the project to watch some time ago: http://lightspark.github.io/ http://lightspark.github.io/

X4 13y ago
Thanks I didn't know about www-plugins/lightspark =) Gonna compile/install it, because adobe-flash is crashing for me all the time.