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This is share of sales in the last 3 months, not share of devices in the wild. It's no surprise that iPhone's sales share plummeted the last quarter before the

by acchow 13y ago

This is share of sales in the last 3 months, not share of devices in the wild. It's no surprise that iPhone's sales share plummeted the last quarter before the 5S release.

cremnob 13y ago
Whenever you see a story about market share, it's for a quarter.
- marcosdumay 13y ago
  Depends on how the shares are measured. The ones that use web sites logs are for the total of the devices in use, for example.
superails 13y ago
I think it is the Nokia Lumia 1020/EOS, which I've heard is more of a sham than marketing would lead you to believe. I have to admit when I've seen the commercials, I wanted one also.
- acchow 13y ago
  "more of a sham than marketing would lead you to believe" In what sense? Some very reliable reviewers (e.g. Brian Klug) say the camera truly is incredible...
  - superails 13y ago
    5MP downsample, resolution falls well short of what a 38MP camera should (theoretically) be capable of, runs windows phone 8 (fewer apps), phone has awkward shape not shown in commercials, low screen resolution, and as the following review puts it: http://www.everyjoe.com/2013/07/13/technology/nokia-lumia-1020-sucks-review/ http://www.everyjoe.com/2013/07/13/technology/nokia-lumia-10... "You might think that despite all of these negatives, at least the Lumia 1020 blows all other phones out of the water when it comes to the camera. You’d be wrong. There’s a noticeable lag when between taking a picture, saving it, and being able to take another picture. The Lumia 1020 comes with three different camera apps, each with their own function, so good luck figuring out what does what. Annoyingly, every photo you take has an on-screen caption that reminds you which app took the photo, but at least it doesn't show up in the picture itself"
    - spongle 13y ago
      Please don't spout the "fewer apps" rubbish. Debian has fewer apps. Ubuntu has fewer apps. Does this mean anything? No. I actually only use three "apps" that aren't built in on my WP8 device.
      - preemrust 13y ago
        Yes it means something when phone is the only device you use and you don't have the app for your banks or airlines or insurance company. A lot of whats there on the windows app store is also shoddy.
        spongle 13y ago
        You have heard of a web browser haven't you? Everything that there isn't an app for you can do on the damn browser which is good as its the same as full desktop IE10. This is a poor excuse and justification. As for shoddy apps, Google Play has its fair share as well don't forget.
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        damon_c 13y ago
        It's really ironic that Microsoft's OS is being bailed out on its lack of apps by the web. Embrace, extend, extingu..... Embraaaaaaaaaace!!!
        spongle 13y ago
        Oh please. << insert this isn't reddit/Slashdot >> It isn't Microsoft's job to write the damn apps, even though they did write a lot to start with themselves to get a good value proposition to start with. And let's apply your flawed logic to other things: "It's really ironic that Windows is being bailed out on its lack of apps by the web". Doesn't work then does it?
- MartinMcGirk 13y ago
  I actually switched from my iPhone 4 and bought a Lumia 1020 to give Windows Phone a try. I can't speak to the technical camera jargon as I'm not much of a camera nerd (yet), but what I can tell you is that the camera is phenomenal compared to what I've used previously. Of the two pics it takes, the 5MP oversampled pics look great, but still look like cameraphone pics. The 34MP pictures though are a different beast. I took a picture of some work colleagues in the office the other day and was able to zoom in and read the place names on a map pinned to the wall a few feet behind them. I took a picture of a crowd that was gathered across the street and was able to zoom in later and crop out some decent (slightly grainy - but not awful) looking photos of people chatting as if I were stood a few feet away. The detail really is amazing compared to anything (phone based) that I've seen before. I have no idea what half the options on my 1020's camera do, but having the option of a manual focus slider is great too. The 1020 isn't a DSLR or even probably a decent point and shoot, but it's definitely not a sham. I wouldn't carry a dedicated camera around with me, and in my experience having the 1020's camera has been great so far (I've only had it a week).

by acchow 13y ago

This is share of sales in the last 3 months, not share of devices in the wild. It's no surprise that iPhone's sales share plummeted the last quarter before the 5S release.

cremnob 13y ago

Whenever you see a story about market share, it's for a quarter.

marcosdumay 13y ago
Depends on how the shares are measured. The ones that use web sites logs are for the total of the devices in use, for example.

superails 13y ago

I think it is the Nokia Lumia 1020/EOS, which I've heard is more of a sham than marketing would lead you to believe. I have to admit when I've seen the commercials, I wanted one also.

acchow 13y ago
"more of a sham than marketing would lead you to believe" In what sense? Some very reliable reviewers (e.g. Brian Klug) say the camera truly is incredible...
- superails 13y ago
  5MP downsample, resolution falls well short of what a 38MP camera should (theoretically) be capable of, runs windows phone 8 (fewer apps), phone has awkward shape not shown in commercials, low screen resolution, and as the following review puts it: http://www.everyjoe.com/2013/07/13/technology/nokia-lumia-1020-sucks-review/ http://www.everyjoe.com/2013/07/13/technology/nokia-lumia-10... "You might think that despite all of these negatives, at least the Lumia 1020 blows all other phones out of the water when it comes to the camera. You’d be wrong. There’s a noticeable lag when between taking a picture, saving it, and being able to take another picture. The Lumia 1020 comes with three different camera apps, each with their own function, so good luck figuring out what does what. Annoyingly, every photo you take has an on-screen caption that reminds you which app took the photo, but at least it doesn't show up in the picture itself"
  - spongle 13y ago
    Please don't spout the "fewer apps" rubbish. Debian has fewer apps. Ubuntu has fewer apps. Does this mean anything? No. I actually only use three "apps" that aren't built in on my WP8 device.
    - preemrust 13y ago
      Yes it means something when phone is the only device you use and you don't have the app for your banks or airlines or insurance company. A lot of whats there on the windows app store is also shoddy.
      - spongle 13y ago
        You have heard of a web browser haven't you? Everything that there isn't an app for you can do on the damn browser which is good as its the same as full desktop IE10. This is a poor excuse and justification. As for shoddy apps, Google Play has its fair share as well don't forget.
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        damon_c 13y ago
        It's really ironic that Microsoft's OS is being bailed out on its lack of apps by the web. Embrace, extend, extingu..... Embraaaaaaaaaace!!!
        spongle 13y ago
        Oh please. << insert this isn't reddit/Slashdot >> It isn't Microsoft's job to write the damn apps, even though they did write a lot to start with themselves to get a good value proposition to start with. And let's apply your flawed logic to other things: "It's really ironic that Windows is being bailed out on its lack of apps by the web". Doesn't work then does it?
MartinMcGirk 13y ago
I actually switched from my iPhone 4 and bought a Lumia 1020 to give Windows Phone a try. I can't speak to the technical camera jargon as I'm not much of a camera nerd (yet), but what I can tell you is that the camera is phenomenal compared to what I've used previously. Of the two pics it takes, the 5MP oversampled pics look great, but still look like cameraphone pics. The 34MP pictures though are a different beast. I took a picture of some work colleagues in the office the other day and was able to zoom in and read the place names on a map pinned to the wall a few feet behind them. I took a picture of a crowd that was gathered across the street and was able to zoom in later and crop out some decent (slightly grainy - but not awful) looking photos of people chatting as if I were stood a few feet away. The detail really is amazing compared to anything (phone based) that I've seen before. I have no idea what half the options on my 1020's camera do, but having the option of a manual focus slider is great too. The 1020 isn't a DSLR or even probably a decent point and shoot, but it's definitely not a sham. I wouldn't carry a dedicated camera around with me, and in my experience having the 1020's camera has been great so far (I've only had it a week).