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Living inside the state, you wouldn't have those fruits if it weren't for the state. Living outside of the state, tribute of fruits is the fee for belonging to
by foobarbazqux 13y ago
Living inside the state, you wouldn't have those fruits if it weren't for the state. Living outside of the state, tribute of fruits is the fee for belonging to the state. If someone were truly being forced to pay US taxes, they wouldn't be able to renounce their citizenship while living outside of the state. And inside the state, it's like complaining that your parents insist you buy your brother a present with your allowance, or better yet, the money you earned mowing the front lawn. The reason the US economy is so deep and liquid is because the US state is so powerful, and to stay powerful it needs to collect taxes.
- ekianjo 13y ago> Living inside the state, you wouldn't have those fruits if it weren't for the state Nice theory but it's not even like you have a remote possibility to live outside of the State. Every country require you to BELONG to a State. You'd rather look back in History how people were actually able to survive and thrive before advanced State powers even existed. The Human Race was not born with a State and Government to direct themselves. This is all a very recent creation in History. Let's not invert the logic and pretend that without State we would have nothing. This is what Socialism wants you to believe.
- bobwaycott 13y agoOh please. Spare us the shitty history lesson. The state has existed in human history for more than 10,000 years. The survival and thriving of the human race prior to the establishment of states is incomparable to the last 10,000 years--except to say that they evolved, survived, and propagated the species. They did not thrive. The human race was hardly shit before it began establishing states in order to organize, centralize, protect, expand, and make its way in the world. Before that? Humans were nothing. Ten thousand years of history does not qualify as a "recent creation in history" unless you're being really particular about establishing recent on a universal and geological time scale. Without the creation of states, humanity had and left little to nothing behind. It merely existed. You would not be here if it weren't for the creation of the state. This is not in any way, shape, or form what socialism would have anyone believe.
- seanmcdirmid 13y agoI wonder if there is a libertarian-minded ant somewhere wanting to rebel against their oppressive colony. States are not unique to human beings.
- foobarbazqux 13y agoThe irony is that the rebel ant needs the colony in order to be a rebel.
- ekianjo 13y agoAnts are not oppressed by their colony. Read the book "Les fourmis" if you want to learn more about how the actually live.
- ekianjo 13y agoHuman history dates way back than 10 000 years ago. So, you are not proving anything with this kind of statement.
- bobwaycott 13y agoDuh. Never said it didn't. I'm guessing you didn't actually read anything I wrote. The choosing of 10,000 years ago was to the earliest known establishment of a state. That was pretty obvious in my comment.
- foobarbazqux 13y agoFamilies are states. Anarchy is fascism. Violence is government. Law is force. Peace is control.