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No, this is very unlikely. (JetBrains CTO here, by the way.)

by yole 13y ago

camus 13y ago
Hey dude, you rock,your products are awesome! just wanted to say thanks.
programminggeek 13y ago
Totally understandable. I would rather JetBrains do well than be greedy and demanding a "free" version.
- chii 13y ago
  and it isn't very expensive either (for a professional coder that is).
fractalsea 13y ago
Out of curiosity, can you explain why you created the community edition for PyCharm, but not others?
- yole 13y ago
  First, with PyCharm there is a possibility to have both a community edition which covers a sufficient breadth of scenarios and a good value-add for the professional version to make it commercially attractive. This wouldn't work for other products. Second, we're specifically mentioning that we want people who first start to learn programming to have access to our products. And a lot of learning these days happens with Python specifically.
  - tehwalrus 13y ago
    Thank you! learners need IDEs too! (not a learner, but back when I coded .NET I couldn't have lived without resharper. Quite excited that I can use PyCharm now too!)
  - acjohnson55 13y ago
    Awesome! I think you guys are going to be for Python what Eclipse was for Java about a decade ago. I'm a paying PyCharm customer, and I absolutely love it. The pace of development is excellent too.
yapcguy 13y ago
Will there be a Go edition, or at least an official JetBrains Go plug-in for the community edition?
- jhawk28 13y ago
  http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEABKL-5938 http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEABKL-5938
- yole 13y ago
  Possibly at some point. Right now we aren't working on Go support and don't have any short-term plans to start.
scardine 13y ago
$50/year for the personal edition is a bargain, great product.
fdb 13y ago
Will the Python plugin for IntelliJ IDEA work in the community edition?
- yole 13y ago
  Yes, there will be a version of the Python plugin compatible with the IDEA community edition.
dschuler 13y ago
I was wondering how it's possible that IntelliJ is free for Android development? What drives the decision making to make one product free and the other paid? In a way I like paying for RubyMine, hoping that it won't be discontinued in the long run, although I'm guessing IntelliJ has a much larger user base.
- kayoone 13y ago
  Afaik the Android IDE is the official Android IDE now and supported by google, thats probably why its free!
  - yole 13y ago
    It's actually the other way round: it could become official and supported by Google because we had released it for free before that.
    - kayoone 13y ago
      thanks for clearing up..i thought you guys had some sort of collaboration that yielded in the free Android IDE but this is even better. Well deserved!
- yole 13y ago
  The reasons for the decisions are different each time. As for Android, we felt that IntelliJ IDEA Community Edition didn't have as much uptake was we had expected, and we thought that adding Android support to CE would be a great way to make it more attractive without endangering the revenue that we get from selling IntelliJ IDEA Ultimate to enterprise customers. Of course, with the Google partnership that came later, the decision turned out far better that we had originally expected. :)
- biafra 13y ago
  Android Studio is a rebranded version of the Community Edition of IntelliJ IDEA which was free and open source for some time already. The idea probably is to get the people to use (and love) it and then when they want the non-free features, to buy it. And with Android Studio: Probably Google is paying a bit for the development.
wyclif 13y ago
Heads up, on the Download page "CoffeeScript" is misspelled: http://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/download/ http://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/download/
- yole 13y ago
  Thanks! Will fix.
KevinEldon 13y ago
Love your products! Love them! I buy WebStorm and IntelliJ IDEA whenever you release a new version. I'm using EAPs for both and while there are some slightly rough edges here and there the products are stable and much better than the already great previous versions. I follow Kotlin and when I have time intend to use it... point is y'all do really great work. Thank you! Forgot to mention: I also use Android Studio too.
SEJeff 13y ago
Props for even posting on HN. Perfect example of marketing "doing it right TM"
- yole 13y ago
  The link wasn't posted by anyone from JetBrains as far as I can see. But we do always watch comments on Reddit and HN for the discussions of our stuff.

No, this is very unlikely. (JetBrains CTO here, by the way.)

by yole 13y ago

No, this is very unlikely. (JetBrains CTO here, by the way.)

camus 13y ago

Hey dude, you rock,your products are awesome! just wanted to say thanks.

programminggeek 13y ago

Totally understandable. I would rather JetBrains do well than be greedy and demanding a "free" version.

chii 13y ago
and it isn't very expensive either (for a professional coder that is).

fractalsea 13y ago

Out of curiosity, can you explain why you created the community edition for PyCharm, but not others?

yole 13y ago
First, with PyCharm there is a possibility to have both a community edition which covers a sufficient breadth of scenarios and a good value-add for the professional version to make it commercially attractive. This wouldn't work for other products. Second, we're specifically mentioning that we want people who first start to learn programming to have access to our products. And a lot of learning these days happens with Python specifically.
- tehwalrus 13y ago
  Thank you! learners need IDEs too! (not a learner, but back when I coded .NET I couldn't have lived without resharper. Quite excited that I can use PyCharm now too!)
- acjohnson55 13y ago
  Awesome! I think you guys are going to be for Python what Eclipse was for Java about a decade ago. I'm a paying PyCharm customer, and I absolutely love it. The pace of development is excellent too.

yapcguy 13y ago

Will there be a Go edition, or at least an official JetBrains Go plug-in for the community edition?

jhawk28 13y ago
http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEABKL-5938 http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEABKL-5938
yole 13y ago
Possibly at some point. Right now we aren't working on Go support and don't have any short-term plans to start.

scardine 13y ago

$50/year for the personal edition is a bargain, great product.

fdb 13y ago

Will the Python plugin for IntelliJ IDEA work in the community edition?

yole 13y ago
Yes, there will be a version of the Python plugin compatible with the IDEA community edition.

dschuler 13y ago

I was wondering how it's possible that IntelliJ is free for Android development? What drives the decision making to make one product free and the other paid? In a way I like paying for RubyMine, hoping that it won't be discontinued in the long run, although I'm guessing IntelliJ has a much larger user base.

kayoone 13y ago
Afaik the Android IDE is the official Android IDE now and supported by google, thats probably why its free!
- yole 13y ago
  It's actually the other way round: it could become official and supported by Google because we had released it for free before that.
  - kayoone 13y ago
    thanks for clearing up..i thought you guys had some sort of collaboration that yielded in the free Android IDE but this is even better. Well deserved!
yole 13y ago
The reasons for the decisions are different each time. As for Android, we felt that IntelliJ IDEA Community Edition didn't have as much uptake was we had expected, and we thought that adding Android support to CE would be a great way to make it more attractive without endangering the revenue that we get from selling IntelliJ IDEA Ultimate to enterprise customers. Of course, with the Google partnership that came later, the decision turned out far better that we had originally expected. :)
biafra 13y ago
Android Studio is a rebranded version of the Community Edition of IntelliJ IDEA which was free and open source for some time already. The idea probably is to get the people to use (and love) it and then when they want the non-free features, to buy it. And with Android Studio: Probably Google is paying a bit for the development.

wyclif 13y ago

Heads up, on the Download page "CoffeeScript" is misspelled: http://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/download/ http://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/download/

yole 13y ago
Thanks! Will fix.

KevinEldon 13y ago

Love your products! Love them! I buy WebStorm and IntelliJ IDEA whenever you release a new version. I'm using EAPs for both and while there are some slightly rough edges here and there the products are stable and much better than the already great previous versions. I follow Kotlin and when I have time intend to use it... point is y'all do really great work. Thank you! Forgot to mention: I also use Android Studio too.

SEJeff 13y ago

Props for even posting on HN. Perfect example of marketing "doing it right TM"

yole 13y ago
The link wasn't posted by anyone from JetBrains as far as I can see. But we do always watch comments on Reddit and HN for the discussions of our stuff.