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>Now, if only we could figure out why Apple jumps through hoops to support a smart watch. i get what you're hinting at, but it also sounds like it could be use

>Now, if only we could figure out why Apple jumps through hoops to support a smart watch. i get what you're hinting at, but it also sounds like it could be useful for ibeacon.

MBCook 13y ago
My impression was the beacons were passive. Even if they aren't, I'm not sure why my notifications would need to be sent to it. I think this sounds suspiciously useful for iOS in the Car [1] [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOS_in_the_Car http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOS_in_the_Car
- notatoad 13y ago
  Oh, yeah. I was thinking "notifications" as just an arbitrary message passing mechanism, not as actual OS notifications. beacons probably don't make sense.
- gonzo 13y ago
  > Siri: Eyes Free mode – for eyes-free and hands-free operation. HFP already works with iOS > Satellite navigation (Satnav). this is interesting, but is more likely built on top of an existing GATT profile, such as L&N https://developer.bluetooth.org/gatt/profiles/Pages/ProfileViewer.aspx?u=org.bluetooth.profile.location_and_navigation.xml https://developer.bluetooth.org/gatt/profiles/Pages/ProfileV... > Telephony instruction and control. HFP works to some extent. PBAP is part of this. > Music control. AVRCP 1.4 already works (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3647 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3647) > iMessage control and response. MAP already works for this
- wootest 13y ago
  Beacons are passive. They have an ID and you're supposed to know what that ID means by some other band of communication or intrinsic knowledge. I can't find a use case for telling the Mona Lisa that you have a dentist appointment or a pending call. You will probably have to pair with the device to get ANCS to start relaying notifications; iBeacons couldn't work if they had to require pairing.
- mrpippy 13y ago
  No, the whole point of iOS in the Car is that the iPhone is rendering the GUI. The car head unit is just displaying that UI, sending touch events back to the iPhone, and sending audio to/from the iPhone. It was pretty clear from the WWDC presentation what ANCS is designed for: smartwatches and other "companion" BLE devices

>Now, if only we could figure out why Apple jumps through hoops to support a smart watch. i get what you're hinting at, but it also sounds like it could be useful for ibeacon.

MBCook 13y ago

My impression was the beacons were passive. Even if they aren't, I'm not sure why my notifications would need to be sent to it. I think this sounds suspiciously useful for iOS in the Car [1] [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOS_in_the_Car http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOS_in_the_Car

notatoad 13y ago
Oh, yeah. I was thinking "notifications" as just an arbitrary message passing mechanism, not as actual OS notifications. beacons probably don't make sense.
gonzo 13y ago
> Siri: Eyes Free mode – for eyes-free and hands-free operation. HFP already works with iOS > Satellite navigation (Satnav). this is interesting, but is more likely built on top of an existing GATT profile, such as L&N https://developer.bluetooth.org/gatt/profiles/Pages/ProfileViewer.aspx?u=org.bluetooth.profile.location_and_navigation.xml https://developer.bluetooth.org/gatt/profiles/Pages/ProfileV... > Telephony instruction and control. HFP works to some extent. PBAP is part of this. > Music control. AVRCP 1.4 already works (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3647 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3647) > iMessage control and response. MAP already works for this
wootest 13y ago
Beacons are passive. They have an ID and you're supposed to know what that ID means by some other band of communication or intrinsic knowledge. I can't find a use case for telling the Mona Lisa that you have a dentist appointment or a pending call. You will probably have to pair with the device to get ANCS to start relaying notifications; iBeacons couldn't work if they had to require pairing.
mrpippy 13y ago
No, the whole point of iOS in the Car is that the iPhone is rendering the GUI. The car head unit is just displaying that UI, sending touch events back to the iPhone, and sending audio to/from the iPhone. It was pretty clear from the WWDC presentation what ANCS is designed for: smartwatches and other "companion" BLE devices