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Canada is part of the "Five Eyes" but enjoy your placebo.
by atlanticus 13y ago
Canada is part of the "Five Eyes" but enjoy your placebo.
- Mikeb85 13y agoYes but passing through our airports isn't a nightmare...
- snitko 13y agoOr so one might think... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24mlK24YDPI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24mlK24YDPI
- Mikeb85 13y agoSo they sent him through a different customs agent, who took a cell phone he voluntarily gave to them, and then let him go... Doesn't sound particularly awful. Anyhow, they probably suspected he was going to work illegally in Canada (plenty of people come as visitors and work illegally), and wanted to make sure that those weren't his plans. Edit - furthermore, having any sort of sensitive information on a cell phone is idiotic, since they are far from secure. It's not terribly difficult to hack any device with physical access - and it's not hard to simply lose your cell phone...
- snitko 13y agoHolding a US citizen for 4 hours. And tricked him into giving his cellphone. Yep. He probably came there to work illegally.
- Mikeb85 13y ago4 hours? Unless I misheard, he mentioned he waited in the queue for an hour, and then waited on the agent for half an hour. If you've ever flown into Toronto when it's busy, you can spend longer waiting on the normal queue in customs... Is that detainment too? I'm sure if he wanted, he could have gone back the other way. He didn't need to enter Canada. At no point in the podcast did he describe anything that could actually be called 'holding' or 'detainment'....
- perlpimp 13y agoAlot of my friends did the oppostie. American employers pay higher wages for professional labour than those in Canada. Most americans travel to study in Canada. Canadian economy is quite conservative, maybe thats why it fared ok in last recession. So it does not make sense, to me at least. my 2c.
- TheLegace 13y agoUnfortuately people are very risk averse here, and like many VCs(according to PG) they don't exactly understand the tech their investing in. I guess SV or the US in general have investor class that can take risks. Personally for political reasons I will stay in Canada, but finding investors for my startup is going to be difficult. Lucikly Intel will save the day for me.(fingers crossed).
- refurb 13y agoBut passing through the land crossing can be. I'm a Canadian citizen and I've gotten far worse treatment from Canadian officials than I have from US officials. It's an anecdote I know, but it is what it is.
- altero 13y agoLast time I checked airport security in canada murdered Polish citizen because he did not spoke english.
- kefs 13y agoYou are correct. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Dzieka%C5%84ski_Taser_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Dzieka%C5%84ski_Taser_i... The entire 10 minute cellphone video of the incident can be found on YouTube, if anyone is interested.
- glasz 13y agooh my god! don't point 'em to the obvious.
- Mikeb85 13y agoThat's quite disingenuous... He was tasered and restrained because he had become unruly and destructive. Certainly the situation could have (and should have) been handled better, and the RCMP should have only tasered him once, but to call it murder, and specifically to say it's because he didn't speak english, is a blatant falsehood.
- scott_karana 13y agoMost (all?) Canadian airports do not use neutron scanners, and have a traditional security layout. There is a lot less hassle.
- homeomorphic 13y agoI doubt that any airport anywhere uses neutron scanners (whatever those may be).
- scott_karana 13y agoYou're right of course, I'm not sure what I was thinking when I typed that. I of course mean the (typically backscatter x-ray) full body scanners.
- scott_karana 13y agoFor what it's worth, even though I cited the wrong tech (see my other reply), gamma ray ("neutron") scanners are pretty cool tech, and worth knowing about :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_scanning#Gamma-ray_radiography http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_scanning#Gamma-ray_radiog...