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This is going to sound inflammatory but I basically consider anyone younger than around 25 to be functionally insane. They're in a period in their life where th

This is going to sound inflammatory but I basically consider anyone younger than around 25 to be functionally insane. They're in a period in their life where they seriously believe that they cannot spend the rest of their lives with someone who doesn't have the same taste in music as they do. You're busy cultivating a sense of identity, I get it. But more often than not you grow up and find yourself in love with someone who likes everything you used to hate and you find it endearing. It's not a bad thing and I try not to treat anyone differently because of it... but young people pick on each other for these sorts of things. That's pretty insane IMO. Update I could probably justify this comment by making a point other than, "young whipper snappers be cray, yo." Hipster hate has been around for years. I find that it comes from young, self-conscious people posturing and picking on other people based on the way they look, the music they like, and other trivial things. It's cruel to pick on other people for something so utterly trivial. There's nothing thinly veiled about it, IMO: it's just bullying and it seems to be a phenomenon I strongly attribute to young people. Maybe that makes me an old, ignorant, ruddy-duddy but I seriously haven't really heard someone over the age of 30 or so make snarky remarks about how so-and-so is such a hipster douchebag. They'd get funny looks and people might think, "What is this, high school!?" I think someone should make this a youtube video. Old people picking on other old people for liking obscure bands young people have never heard of in forty years. Calling them hipsters (a term that originated in the 50s beat movement, no?).

badman_ting 13y ago
Ha, I know what you mean. But it's not the kids I'm worried about, it's the adults.
- nooneelse 13y ago
  Perhaps the cultural pendulum has swung a bit too far into elevating the voices of those with traits of psychological neoteny. How could we insert a counterbalancing force of support for mental gerontomorphic features in online discourse?
smsm42 13y ago
Unfortunately, biological age and mental age don't always go hand in hand.
pyrocat 13y ago
Ageism is dumb, and I rally against it now as an adult as much as I did when I was 15. > "but I seriously haven't really heard someone over the age of 30 or so make snarky remarks about how so-and-so is such a hipster douchebag" Maybe that's because you surround yourself with people who have similar outlooks? That doesn't mean that all people over 30 are above high school bullshit. And it certainly doesn't mean that all people under 25 are perpetuating high school bullshit. There is really no reason to bring age into this conversation at all. You're just confirming your own bias. tl;dr condemn the behavior, not the demographic that you feel is representative of the behavior
- webhat 13y ago
  I also think ageism is dumb, however the age - 25 - that he mentioned isn't an arbitrary cut off point. There have been studies, such as by the National Institutes of Health that show that "the part of the brain that restrains risky behavior, including reckless driving, and thinking skills is not fully developed until the age of 25." Meaning the Frontal Lobe and Prefrontal cortex have not yet matured until 25, that's the area of the brain area responsible for planning, prioritizing and controlling impulses. There is an amount of truth in this. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443713704577601532208760746.html http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000087239639044371370457760...
  - dwd 13y ago
    I would believe it's more to do with the degree to which a person's identity is externalised. As soon as someone doesn't have the same taste in music, clothes, lifestyle - then it is an attack on them personally. I don't think it necessarily lessens with age rather shifts to other things like postcode envy.
  - rapind 13y ago
    Those studies are obviously flawed based on the anecdotal evidence that I was well into my 30s before becoming even passably mature.
  - jlgreco 13y ago
    So does this have much to do with calling people "hipster" in a disparaging way? And why "hipster", but seemingly not other insults (which >25 year olds certainly still make)? He's just yelling at kids to get off his lawn and lacks the self-awareness to pay attention to who's lawn he is standing on while he does it. There aren't any deep truths hidden in his comment.
jlgreco 13y ago
"I seriously haven't really heard someone over the age of 30 or so make snarky remarks about how so-and-so is such a hipster douchebag. They'd get funny looks and people might think, "What is this, high school!?"" Yuppie douchebag on the other hand...
jamesaguilar 13y ago
On the other hand, I have noticed that people over thirty are willing to label people under twenty-five as functionally insane, which strikes me as a bit of an internal contradiction in your post.
- Nursie 13y ago
  Wait until you get here, you'll find the young'uns unbearable to be around too. Just seems to happen...
  - jamesaguilar 13y ago
    I'm sure that'll happen, as I have no reason to believe I'm better than anyone else. I hope I'll have the self-awareness not to judge them for judging people, though, or at least to do it in a more measured fashion.
    - Nursie 13y ago
      Indeed, and I'm not judging the young folk either, with their energy and their zeal and their misguided good intentions. Life will beat it out of them sooner or later, best let them get on with it. They'll join us old cycnics soon enough...
    - UnFleshedOne 13y ago
      Judging people for judging people is the last acceptable judgementalism! I don't think it is bad though.
mehwoot 13y ago
They're in a period in their life where they seriously believe that they cannot spend the rest of their lives with someone who doesn't have the same taste in music as they do. Wow... you actually believe that? You're insane.

badman_ting 13y ago

Ha, I know what you mean. But it's not the kids I'm worried about, it's the adults.

nooneelse 13y ago
Perhaps the cultural pendulum has swung a bit too far into elevating the voices of those with traits of psychological neoteny. How could we insert a counterbalancing force of support for mental gerontomorphic features in online discourse?

smsm42 13y ago

Unfortunately, biological age and mental age don't always go hand in hand.

pyrocat 13y ago

Ageism is dumb, and I rally against it now as an adult as much as I did when I was 15. > "but I seriously haven't really heard someone over the age of 30 or so make snarky remarks about how so-and-so is such a hipster douchebag" Maybe that's because you surround yourself with people who have similar outlooks? That doesn't mean that all people over 30 are above high school bullshit. And it certainly doesn't mean that all people under 25 are perpetuating high school bullshit. There is really no reason to bring age into this conversation at all. You're just confirming your own bias. tl;dr condemn the behavior, not the demographic that you feel is representative of the behavior

webhat 13y ago
I also think ageism is dumb, however the age - 25 - that he mentioned isn't an arbitrary cut off point. There have been studies, such as by the National Institutes of Health that show that "the part of the brain that restrains risky behavior, including reckless driving, and thinking skills is not fully developed until the age of 25." Meaning the Frontal Lobe and Prefrontal cortex have not yet matured until 25, that's the area of the brain area responsible for planning, prioritizing and controlling impulses. There is an amount of truth in this. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443713704577601532208760746.html http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000087239639044371370457760...
- dwd 13y ago
  I would believe it's more to do with the degree to which a person's identity is externalised. As soon as someone doesn't have the same taste in music, clothes, lifestyle - then it is an attack on them personally. I don't think it necessarily lessens with age rather shifts to other things like postcode envy.
- rapind 13y ago
  Those studies are obviously flawed based on the anecdotal evidence that I was well into my 30s before becoming even passably mature.
- jlgreco 13y ago
  So does this have much to do with calling people "hipster" in a disparaging way? And why "hipster", but seemingly not other insults (which >25 year olds certainly still make)? He's just yelling at kids to get off his lawn and lacks the self-awareness to pay attention to who's lawn he is standing on while he does it. There aren't any deep truths hidden in his comment.

jlgreco 13y ago

"I seriously haven't really heard someone over the age of 30 or so make snarky remarks about how so-and-so is such a hipster douchebag. They'd get funny looks and people might think, "What is this, high school!?"" Yuppie douchebag on the other hand...

jamesaguilar 13y ago

On the other hand, I have noticed that people over thirty are willing to label people under twenty-five as functionally insane, which strikes me as a bit of an internal contradiction in your post.

Nursie 13y ago
Wait until you get here, you'll find the young'uns unbearable to be around too. Just seems to happen...
- jamesaguilar 13y ago
  I'm sure that'll happen, as I have no reason to believe I'm better than anyone else. I hope I'll have the self-awareness not to judge them for judging people, though, or at least to do it in a more measured fashion.
  - Nursie 13y ago
    Indeed, and I'm not judging the young folk either, with their energy and their zeal and their misguided good intentions. Life will beat it out of them sooner or later, best let them get on with it. They'll join us old cycnics soon enough...
  - UnFleshedOne 13y ago
    Judging people for judging people is the last acceptable judgementalism! I don't think it is bad though.

mehwoot 13y ago

They're in a period in their life where they seriously believe that they cannot spend the rest of their lives with someone who doesn't have the same taste in music as they do. Wow... you actually believe that? You're insane.