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It seems like the hipster-as-a-pejorative thing started around the total collapse of the music industry in the mid-2000's and unfortunately was driven by indie

It seems like the hipster-as-a-pejorative thing started around the total collapse of the music industry in the mid-2000's and unfortunately was driven by indie scenesters who resented the influx of popularity when say, Modest Mouse had a song appear on say, One Tree Hill. The primary aesthetic religion of the indie scene from punk onward, no matter what the genre or style, was D.I.Y. so suburbanites who went to Hot Topic to grab Iron Maiden t-shirts were profoundly reviled. This happens in any insular subculture. Do I even need to mention the "geek girl" bullshit? The problem has quickly become that this revulsion has also played into the jock-centric bullying of anyone who dares to be different--"my football coach won't let me grow my hair long so now let me go punch that faggot with the plastic frames" sort of crap. Any indie community that still exists needs to rid itself of all this baggage for that reason alone. Whatever utility the word "hipster" had as a pejorative, if any, is gone. Internet killed pop culture and it's dead to stay. The most popular cartoon character now is effing Grumpy Cat. Anyone should consider anyone else using "hipster" as an offhand pejorative to be no greater than a classroom bully, no different than calling someone a dweeb in the 1980s.

ameoba 13y ago
When you call somebody a hipster... http://dustinland.com/archives/archives464.html http://dustinland.com/archives/archives464.html
Dylan16807 13y ago
>Do I even need to mention the "geek girl" bullshit? The thing is, the 'geek girl' stereotype is something that almost never happens, but as far as I understand it the stereotypical hipster is not uncommon. It is possible to 'like' something the wrong way: namely where you do not actually like it. Hipster hate isn't about being different, it's about a perception of dishonest attention-seeking.
- moutarde 13y ago
  > Hipster hate isn't about being different, it's about a perception of dishonest attention-seeking. Isn't this the same justification that's used to shame the "pseudo" geek girls?
  - Dylan16807 13y ago
    The justification is not the problem, it's the targets. People will give that excuse even when it's a blatant lie. As far as I am aware, the discussion of 'fake geek girls' has mostly come from MRA-types that spend most of their time failing to see women as people. So any particular instance of 'fake geek girl' is almost certainly the commenter being an ass and wrong. But, again, as far as I am aware, there are no large groups going around being 'anti-hipster' in situations where it doesn't fit. So instances of being 'anti-hipster' are often accurate.
l33tbro 13y ago
Hipster bashing started with this book which came out in '03: http://www.amazon.com/The-Hipster-Handbook-Robert-Lanham/dp/1400032016 http://www.amazon.com/The-Hipster-Handbook-Robert-Lanham/dp/... Also, pop culture is not dead #twerking #beiber #hashtags

ameoba 13y ago

When you call somebody a hipster... http://dustinland.com/archives/archives464.html http://dustinland.com/archives/archives464.html

Dylan16807 13y ago

>Do I even need to mention the "geek girl" bullshit? The thing is, the 'geek girl' stereotype is something that almost never happens, but as far as I understand it the stereotypical hipster is not uncommon. It is possible to 'like' something the wrong way: namely where you do not actually like it. Hipster hate isn't about being different, it's about a perception of dishonest attention-seeking.

moutarde 13y ago
> Hipster hate isn't about being different, it's about a perception of dishonest attention-seeking. Isn't this the same justification that's used to shame the "pseudo" geek girls?
- Dylan16807 13y ago
  The justification is not the problem, it's the targets. People will give that excuse even when it's a blatant lie. As far as I am aware, the discussion of 'fake geek girls' has mostly come from MRA-types that spend most of their time failing to see women as people. So any particular instance of 'fake geek girl' is almost certainly the commenter being an ass and wrong. But, again, as far as I am aware, there are no large groups going around being 'anti-hipster' in situations where it doesn't fit. So instances of being 'anti-hipster' are often accurate.

l33tbro 13y ago

Hipster bashing started with this book which came out in '03: http://www.amazon.com/The-Hipster-Handbook-Robert-Lanham/dp/1400032016 http://www.amazon.com/The-Hipster-Handbook-Robert-Lanham/dp/... Also, pop culture is not dead #twerking #beiber #hashtags