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You're honestly arguing against feeding people? You're trolling, right?

by acadien 13y ago

dreamdu5t 13y ago
Cool. So you're going to buy me dinner tonight?
- smtddr 13y ago
  Context is everything. No, you with your interwebz and spare time to be talking on HN isn't going to get a dinner from me. But the guy with his family out in the cold on xmas because bigcorp decided they didn't need him after 39 years and he has no other marketable skill(of whose fault is debatable)? Yeah, I'm buying that family dinner. This kind of thinking, the "them vs us" instead of _US_ as a whole. This is what keeps divisions between us. This is how racism survives, this is how people don't care for the homeless, the poor, the sick, the people in 3rd world countries suffering to provide you your fancy 1st-world luxuries. Screw 'em, right? If they weren't smart(read: lucky) enough to be successful that's their own fault. What, they didn't know enough to learn fancypants.js in 2007? Too bad! What, they thought they should be working at the corp forever and getting a nice retirement package? Pfft, whatever! What are people suppose to do? EVERYONE can't be an entrepreneur. Some(apparently a lot) of people just want to do an honest day's work for an honest day's pay.
  - baddox 13y ago
    In this case, "context" is a convenient excuse to make a broad sensational statement then claim that the obvious absurd consequences of that statement don't count.
  - tomrod 13y ago
    Can I help you do this? I know a number of families in this kind of situation who would greatly benefit from your kindness!
- brightsize 13y ago
  Are you starving and desperately in need tonight? Then sure. In fact it would be best if everyone but you (since you're impoverished) banded together to feed you tonight in your desperation, especially if you have a kid in the same plight. We'll call this thing "taxation". What a beautiful name that is. "I like paying taxes, with them I buy civilization."
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- Daishiman 13y ago
  What a fucking strawman. It is absolutely obvious that is not what is being talked about.
paul_f 13y ago
We spend billions on food stamps in the US. Seems we already do feed people.
- toomuchtodo 13y ago
  http://money.msn.com/now/post--panera-ceo-gets-hungry-on-food-stamps http://money.msn.com/now/post--panera-ceo-gets-hungry-on-foo... Panera Bread founder and chief executive Ron Shaich has built a fortune selling pumpkin muffins and croissants to America's middle class. But this week, he's trying out the SNAP Challenge in an effort to find out how the other half lives by limiting grocery purchases to the average benefit amount shelled out by the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. It's not much. A typical food stamp recipient receives just $4.50 per day in food aid, according to Feeding America. Emphasis mine. If we want to lower the cost of food aid, cut out the middle man. Buy the farm land, automate as much of the farming as you can, and directly manage the distribution of the food.

You're honestly arguing against feeding people? You're trolling, right?

by acadien 13y ago

You're honestly arguing against feeding people? You're trolling, right?

dreamdu5t 13y ago

Cool. So you're going to buy me dinner tonight?

smtddr 13y ago
Context is everything. No, you with your interwebz and spare time to be talking on HN isn't going to get a dinner from me. But the guy with his family out in the cold on xmas because bigcorp decided they didn't need him after 39 years and he has no other marketable skill(of whose fault is debatable)? Yeah, I'm buying that family dinner. This kind of thinking, the "them vs us" instead of _US_ as a whole. This is what keeps divisions between us. This is how racism survives, this is how people don't care for the homeless, the poor, the sick, the people in 3rd world countries suffering to provide you your fancy 1st-world luxuries. Screw 'em, right? If they weren't smart(read: lucky) enough to be successful that's their own fault. What, they didn't know enough to learn fancypants.js in 2007? Too bad! What, they thought they should be working at the corp forever and getting a nice retirement package? Pfft, whatever! What are people suppose to do? EVERYONE can't be an entrepreneur. Some(apparently a lot) of people just want to do an honest day's work for an honest day's pay.
- baddox 13y ago
  In this case, "context" is a convenient excuse to make a broad sensational statement then claim that the obvious absurd consequences of that statement don't count.
- tomrod 13y ago
  Can I help you do this? I know a number of families in this kind of situation who would greatly benefit from your kindness!
brightsize 13y ago
Are you starving and desperately in need tonight? Then sure. In fact it would be best if everyone but you (since you're impoverished) banded together to feed you tonight in your desperation, especially if you have a kid in the same plight. We'll call this thing "taxation". What a beautiful name that is. "I like paying taxes, with them I buy civilization."
- deleted 13y ago
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Daishiman 13y ago
What a fucking strawman. It is absolutely obvious that is not what is being talked about.

paul_f 13y ago

We spend billions on food stamps in the US. Seems we already do feed people.

toomuchtodo 13y ago
http://money.msn.com/now/post--panera-ceo-gets-hungry-on-food-stamps http://money.msn.com/now/post--panera-ceo-gets-hungry-on-foo... Panera Bread founder and chief executive Ron Shaich has built a fortune selling pumpkin muffins and croissants to America's middle class. But this week, he's trying out the SNAP Challenge in an effort to find out how the other half lives by limiting grocery purchases to the average benefit amount shelled out by the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. It's not much. A typical food stamp recipient receives just $4.50 per day in food aid, according to Feeding America. Emphasis mine. If we want to lower the cost of food aid, cut out the middle man. Buy the farm land, automate as much of the farming as you can, and directly manage the distribution of the food.