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Does anyone know why?

chris_wot 13y ago
Copyright assignment.
- mhall119 13y ago
  Neither Wayland nor Mir require copyright assignment
  - chris_wot 13y ago
    Look at the fine print when you contribute patches then. For individuals: http://www.canonical.com/sites/default/files/active/images/Canonical-HA-CLA-ANY-I.pdf http://www.canonical.com/sites/default/files/active/images/C... 2.3 Outbound License Based on the grant of rights in Sections 2.1 and 2.2, if We include Your Contribution in a Material, We may license the Contribution under any license, including copyleft, permissive, commercial, or proprietary licenses. As a condition on the exercise of this right, We agree to also license the Contribution under the terms of the license or licenses which We are using for the Material on the Submission Date. Same goes for the entity license: http://www.canonical.com/sites/default/files/active/images/Canonical-HA-CLA-ANY-E.pdf http://www.canonical.com/sites/default/files/active/images/C... You might also want to read the following: http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/25376.html http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/25376.html
    - mhall119 13y ago
      Yes, but that's still not assignment of copyright. The contributor still retains their copyright.
      - chris_wot 13y ago
        Fair call.
wmf 13y ago
The current official rationale: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/Spec#Why_Not_Wayland_.2BAC8_Weston.3F https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/Spec#Why_Not_Wayland_.2BAC8_West... https://plus.google.com/113883146362955330174/posts/PXc93m8nKwk https://plus.google.com/113883146362955330174/posts/PXc93m8n... For the history, abandon all hope ye who enter here: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTMxNzI http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTMxNzI https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/Spec?action=diff&rev1=3&rev2=4 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/Spec?action=diff&rev1=3&rev2=4 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTMxODY http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTMxODY
synchronise 13y ago
It has been implied that it's so other devices couldn't as easily implement their 'convergence device' idea as they could have with Wayland.
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mhall119 13y ago
Wayland wasn't ready
- pyre 13y ago
  That doesn't make sense. At the time, Wayland was more ready than a project written from scratch. Their initial manifesto also called out a bunch of things as failings of Wayland that were patently false. The Wayland core devs also did not know that Ubuntu was having these issues, IIRC. So either: 1) Ubuntu didn't understand Wayland at all, amd decided to write their own from scratch without talking to or consulting the Wayland devs. Or 2) Ubuntu has an ulterior motive (e.g. Not-Invented-Here-syndrome).

mhall119 13y ago
Neither Wayland nor Mir require copyright assignment
- chris_wot 13y ago
  Look at the fine print when you contribute patches then. For individuals: http://www.canonical.com/sites/default/files/active/images/Canonical-HA-CLA-ANY-I.pdf http://www.canonical.com/sites/default/files/active/images/C... 2.3 Outbound License Based on the grant of rights in Sections 2.1 and 2.2, if We include Your Contribution in a Material, We may license the Contribution under any license, including copyleft, permissive, commercial, or proprietary licenses. As a condition on the exercise of this right, We agree to also license the Contribution under the terms of the license or licenses which We are using for the Material on the Submission Date. Same goes for the entity license: http://www.canonical.com/sites/default/files/active/images/Canonical-HA-CLA-ANY-E.pdf http://www.canonical.com/sites/default/files/active/images/C... You might also want to read the following: http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/25376.html http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/25376.html
  - mhall119 13y ago
    Yes, but that's still not assignment of copyright. The contributor still retains their copyright.
    - chris_wot 13y ago
      Fair call.

wmf 13y ago

The current official rationale: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/Spec#Why_Not_Wayland_.2BAC8_Weston.3F https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/Spec#Why_Not_Wayland_.2BAC8_West... https://plus.google.com/113883146362955330174/posts/PXc93m8nKwk https://plus.google.com/113883146362955330174/posts/PXc93m8n... For the history, abandon all hope ye who enter here: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTMxNzI http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTMxNzI https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/Spec?action=diff&rev1=3&rev2=4 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/Spec?action=diff&rev1=3&rev2=4 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTMxODY http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTMxODY

synchronise 13y ago

It has been implied that it's so other devices couldn't as easily implement their 'convergence device' idea as they could have with Wayland.

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mhall119 13y ago

Wayland wasn't ready

pyre 13y ago
That doesn't make sense. At the time, Wayland was more ready than a project written from scratch. Their initial manifesto also called out a bunch of things as failings of Wayland that were patently false. The Wayland core devs also did not know that Ubuntu was having these issues, IIRC. So either: 1) Ubuntu didn't understand Wayland at all, amd decided to write their own from scratch without talking to or consulting the Wayland devs. Or 2) Ubuntu has an ulterior motive (e.g. Not-Invented-Here-syndrome).