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At least they can create their own companies in the US. I am currently a freelance frontend engineer who needs to scale to hire people but I can't start my own

At least they can create their own companies in the US. I am currently a freelance frontend engineer who needs to scale to hire people but I can't start my own company in France. I have to do it with a French associate who must be the president. I have the chance of doing it with my best friend. By the way, they refused to renew my papers because I dropped out of school to be the CTO in a startup who made it to a notorious national journal.

wtn 13y ago
I think "notorious national journal" == "well-read national newspaper".
dalke 13y ago
I looked for and found http://www.colestreet.com/starting-your-first-business-in-france-here-are-the-steps-and-some-great-tips/ http://www.colestreet.com/starting-your-first-business-in-fr... about starting a company in France. Wow. Just wow.
mahyarm 13y ago
Try Switzerland?
einhverfr 13y ago
I am facing a similar issue with Indonesia. Really, regarding France, just start an Ltd in the UK and hire people in France (evil grin). I am a part owner of a UK LTD (http://www.efficito.com http://www.efficito.com) and neither our stockholders nor our directors, nor our officers are from the UK. It made it slightly harder to get a bank account opened in the Netherlands though.
- e12e 13y ago
  Any bank you would recommend?
  - einhverfr 13y ago
    I don't know of any in France. My understanding in all cases is that it really helps to know folks at the bank. So I would start at where you currently do your banking and see what you can do there.
    - e12e 13y ago
      I actually meant in the Netherlands :-)
      - einhverfr 13y ago
        I won't say we have a lot of experience and I feel a bit odd making a recommendation based on being in business for less than a year.... (I am in Indonesia and this makes it a bit harder to feel secure in my recommendations.) Feel free to email me at chris@efficito.com and I will talk with my business partner (who is in the Netherlands) a bit more before giving a recommendation.
      - jacquesm 13y ago
        I used to recommend rabobank, but as of late I've shifted to ABN/Amro. The story behind why I'd drop a 19 year banking relationship is longer than there is room for in this comment box here but it wasn't a triviality. I'll report on ABN/Amro in another 20 years or so :)
DrJokepu 13y ago
Can't you like, form a company in another EU member state with more flexible rules (UK comes to mind) and then operate/provide services in France, which you are allowed to do so due to EU freedom of movement of capital, goods, service and people?

wtn 13y ago

I think "notorious national journal" == "well-read national newspaper".

dalke 13y ago

I looked for and found http://www.colestreet.com/starting-your-first-business-in-france-here-are-the-steps-and-some-great-tips/ http://www.colestreet.com/starting-your-first-business-in-fr... about starting a company in France. Wow. Just wow.

mahyarm 13y ago

Try Switzerland?

einhverfr 13y ago

I am facing a similar issue with Indonesia. Really, regarding France, just start an Ltd in the UK and hire people in France (evil grin). I am a part owner of a UK LTD (http://www.efficito.com http://www.efficito.com) and neither our stockholders nor our directors, nor our officers are from the UK. It made it slightly harder to get a bank account opened in the Netherlands though.

e12e 13y ago
Any bank you would recommend?
- einhverfr 13y ago
  I don't know of any in France. My understanding in all cases is that it really helps to know folks at the bank. So I would start at where you currently do your banking and see what you can do there.
  - e12e 13y ago
    I actually meant in the Netherlands :-)
    - einhverfr 13y ago
      I won't say we have a lot of experience and I feel a bit odd making a recommendation based on being in business for less than a year.... (I am in Indonesia and this makes it a bit harder to feel secure in my recommendations.) Feel free to email me at chris@efficito.com and I will talk with my business partner (who is in the Netherlands) a bit more before giving a recommendation.
    - jacquesm 13y ago
      I used to recommend rabobank, but as of late I've shifted to ABN/Amro. The story behind why I'd drop a 19 year banking relationship is longer than there is room for in this comment box here but it wasn't a triviality. I'll report on ABN/Amro in another 20 years or so :)

DrJokepu 13y ago

Can't you like, form a company in another EU member state with more flexible rules (UK comes to mind) and then operate/provide services in France, which you are allowed to do so due to EU freedom of movement of capital, goods, service and people?