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Well at least they are not trying to copy google by having a simple UI. The horsehead nebula will not rescue microsoft search. What a disappointment.

encoderer 17y ago
Actually... i took it thru some paces... search some obscure mysql error messages, python function names, my name, unit conversions, etc.. The results are exactly what I expect, as good (or nearly so) as Google. The only exception being advanced query syntax: wildcards in phrases, the ".." range operator, etc. But that's something I can forgive on day 1...
- axod 17y ago
  You don't win by being nearly as good as your competitor though.
  - encoderer 17y ago
    Oh come on, it's day 1... I can't say Bing will gain traction or not. But, at the very least, on day one, it's the 2nd best search engine available.
    - axod 17y ago
      The search results seem like pretty much the same as they have been for years. This is just a rebranding and some UI fluff as far as I can see. So yeah, it's day 1 for the new UI, but I was talking about quality of search results.
  - jimbokun 17y ago
    Microsoft has done exactly this several times. They won through superior business models, which made nearly as good better for their purposes. (Unless, of course, you include the business model as part of being better than the competition, in which case your statement is trivially true.) I don't know if Microsoft has ideas for beating Google in the business model arena, but I wouldn't put it past them.
- SapphireSun 17y ago
  I noticed something interesting. When I searched for "google" it displayed _only_ google's homepage (there was a link below it to display similar results). I tried searching google for "bing" and "yahoo" and google shows the primary result in a highlight at the top of the page. I dunno. In some ways, bing seems more aesthetically pleasing than google. I really liked the infinite image scroll as some others have mentioned.
dmnd 17y ago
A sidebar does not make the UI terribly more complex. Google even added one, but it's hidden behind a 'Show options' link by default. And a pretty photo versus the occasional Google Doodle is just a matter of taste. I like the photo myself.
pj 17y ago
Yeah, it's exactly the same results as from Live. No wonder they are spending $100 Million to advertise it. From what I have seen of it thus far, it's the same old search with a new url and a new skin. Big disappointment...
- dmnd 17y ago
  The core algorithm is the same as Live's, but there is more to a search engine than ten blue links. Did the marketing actually say it was a whole new algorithm/indexer? It'll be interesting to see if the extraneous features catch on or not. The treatment of large companies is nice: http://www.bing.com/search?q=fry%27s http://www.bing.com/search?q=fry%27s
  - pj 17y ago
    Well, .. I'll give it a second look. Maybe they know it'll take $100 Million to explain why it is better to people, including me. I can accept that possibility.
    - dmnd 17y ago
      Getting people to seriously try a new search engine does take some work. The $100 million is probably an attempt to overcome the branding effect described in this article a week ago: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=626960 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=626960
lucraft 17y ago
Actually, the UI is just as simple as Google's. They just put a pretty picture on there too.

encoderer 17y ago

Actually... i took it thru some paces... search some obscure mysql error messages, python function names, my name, unit conversions, etc.. The results are exactly what I expect, as good (or nearly so) as Google. The only exception being advanced query syntax: wildcards in phrases, the ".." range operator, etc. But that's something I can forgive on day 1...

axod 17y ago
You don't win by being nearly as good as your competitor though.
- encoderer 17y ago
  Oh come on, it's day 1... I can't say Bing will gain traction or not. But, at the very least, on day one, it's the 2nd best search engine available.
  - axod 17y ago
    The search results seem like pretty much the same as they have been for years. This is just a rebranding and some UI fluff as far as I can see. So yeah, it's day 1 for the new UI, but I was talking about quality of search results.
- jimbokun 17y ago
  Microsoft has done exactly this several times. They won through superior business models, which made nearly as good better for their purposes. (Unless, of course, you include the business model as part of being better than the competition, in which case your statement is trivially true.) I don't know if Microsoft has ideas for beating Google in the business model arena, but I wouldn't put it past them.
SapphireSun 17y ago
I noticed something interesting. When I searched for "google" it displayed _only_ google's homepage (there was a link below it to display similar results). I tried searching google for "bing" and "yahoo" and google shows the primary result in a highlight at the top of the page. I dunno. In some ways, bing seems more aesthetically pleasing than google. I really liked the infinite image scroll as some others have mentioned.

dmnd 17y ago

A sidebar does not make the UI terribly more complex. Google even added one, but it's hidden behind a 'Show options' link by default. And a pretty photo versus the occasional Google Doodle is just a matter of taste. I like the photo myself.

pj 17y ago

Yeah, it's exactly the same results as from Live. No wonder they are spending $100 Million to advertise it. From what I have seen of it thus far, it's the same old search with a new url and a new skin. Big disappointment...

dmnd 17y ago
The core algorithm is the same as Live's, but there is more to a search engine than ten blue links. Did the marketing actually say it was a whole new algorithm/indexer? It'll be interesting to see if the extraneous features catch on or not. The treatment of large companies is nice: http://www.bing.com/search?q=fry%27s http://www.bing.com/search?q=fry%27s
- pj 17y ago
  Well, .. I'll give it a second look. Maybe they know it'll take $100 Million to explain why it is better to people, including me. I can accept that possibility.
  - dmnd 17y ago
    Getting people to seriously try a new search engine does take some work. The $100 million is probably an attempt to overcome the branding effect described in this article a week ago: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=626960 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=626960

lucraft 17y ago

Actually, the UI is just as simple as Google's. They just put a pretty picture on there too.