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The problem is that losethos is quite obviously suffering from a severe mental disorder. His posts are not usually so racist, but almost always include a lot o

The problem is that losethos is quite obviously suffering from a severe mental disorder. His posts are not usually so racist, but almost always include a lot of religious, well, insanity. It's sad because a few lines of his posts are usually very much on topic, buried in a morass of debilitating drivel. I don't know what he's like if/when he's on medication, but to me, it seems a shame that his posts end up not being seen. To that end, I appreciate someone having hoisted the salient portion.

icambron 13y ago
I get that he's mentally ill (I read up on his OS the other day), but I do take exception to the repost of part of his comment. Because his comment is ridiculous. "Monkey" is meant as a racial slur. "American" is meant comparatively (where the smart people learn assembler!), not just incidentally. Taking it out of context like that doesn't make it salient just because it's not as obvious what it means. So it's fine, I guess, not to judge him, but we ought to keep judging his comments, which are hellbanned for good reason.
- asveikau 13y ago
  I haven't seen anything written by this guy. Can someone explain why people on HN seem to conflate mental illness with writing an operating system? Is this just the HN attitude of having just learned js/ruby yesterday and being afraid of low level details? I used to work on a small kernel just as a fun hobby project. I haven't had much time to do much with it lately but it was a lot of fun. I would think that this should be encouraged instead of mocked.
  - icambron 13y ago
    No, no, he really is mentally ill and he really did write an impressive-looking operating system [1]. Also the post quoted above really is packed with racist vitriol. Take all of that literally. [1] http://www.templeos.org/ http://www.templeos.org/
  - nullymcnull 13y ago
    You're way off base here - consider turning on showdead and reading some of his posts, or even just googling the guy, before making wild assumptions. Nobody is snarking on losethos and designating him mentally ill because he wrote an OS. losethos is genuinely mentally ill.
    - asveikau 13y ago
      I did google him. The impression I get from HN comments: 1. I see posts making fun of this guy's mental illness. 2. I see posts making fun of how he's working on an OS. I don't think either one is particularly cool.
      - nknighthb 13y ago
        Did you turn on showdead and read his comments as you were advised to, or did you just decide to remain willfully ignorant while drawing absurd conclusions?
        asveikau 13y ago
        Can you please re-read what you're replying to? I do not feel that it went through. I presume from your response that you are OK with: 1. Making fun of mental illness. (I hope that mental illness doesn't have to afflict your family before you realize what's wrong with that.) 2. Making fun of working on an OS. (Still uncool.) To answer your question, yes, I read his comments.
        nknighthb 13y ago
        I presume from your response that you're an arrogant, presumptuous asshole who can't conceive of the possibility that someone disagrees with your characterizations.
        asveikau 13y ago
        Ouch. I'll keep that in mind for next time I attempt a kind word for people with mental illness, that nknighthb has a problem with that.
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  - derleth 13y ago
    > Can someone explain why people on HN seem to conflate mental illness with writing an operating system? Nobody here does. It's just that this specific guy happens to have written a simple graphical OS from scratch apparently without anyone else's help. He also believes God speaks to him through random noise and posts random text created from mixing up Bible verses as being what God just said. He is, really, classic schizophrenic. There's no other way to say it. He hears voices nobody else can hear and he believes it is God talking to him. > Is this just the HN attitude of having just learned js/ruby yesterday and being afraid of low level details? Now you're just embarrassing yourself.
    - asveikau 13y ago
      > Now you're just embarrassing yourself. No actually, I am not embarrassed to point out that this problem exists on HN. Read any comment thread that deals with low-level anything. It's painful. Edit: Prerequisite: to feel just how painful it is, you must understand the topic being discussed.
      - derleth 13y ago
        > to feel just how painful it is, you must understand the topic being discussed. Of course I do, which is why your comments are so laughable.
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      - rjbwork 13y ago
        LoseThos is a self-admitted schizophrenic who frequently posts racist and religious rants that are extremely diverged from reality. This has nothing to do with low level details of anything, and much more to do with the fact that LoseThos is genuinely mentally ill, yet also wrote a strange, beautiful, functional system.
        Luyt 13y ago
        A video of TempleOS (formerly known as losethos): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0MsDl39UL0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0MsDl39UL0 That's really weird stuff.
  - barbs 13y ago
    Turn on showdead and check his comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=losethos https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=losethos
  - asveikau 13y ago
    Downvotes continue. I have seen this story before. For a self-styled "hacker" community this place values orthodoxy an awful lot. And passive aggressiveness to boot. I think it must come from an excess of javascript and VC bullshit. ducks Also they are unable to tell when I am joking or exaggerating.
termain 13y ago
Maybe someone can put together some sort of losethos filter bot to automate the hoisting.
nullymcnull 13y ago
I'm not sure there's enough substance buried in the racist drivel to be worth bothering in this case. More than a few of us here are old enough to have spent afternoons typing in BASIC programs with lots of DATA sections from the back pages of computer magazines. I'm struggling to understand how an anecdote about that brings much that is 'relevant' or 'salient' to a discussion of truly oddball languages like BANCStar.
JohnnyBrown 13y ago
It's also interesting that whenever the subject of losethos is brought up, the discussions take a strangely reliable turn. Someone (or several someones) makes a comment that includes the words "mental illness", racist/racism, religous/religion, medication.

icambron 13y ago

I get that he's mentally ill (I read up on his OS the other day), but I do take exception to the repost of part of his comment. Because his comment is ridiculous. "Monkey" is meant as a racial slur. "American" is meant comparatively (where the smart people learn assembler!), not just incidentally. Taking it out of context like that doesn't make it salient just because it's not as obvious what it means. So it's fine, I guess, not to judge him, but we ought to keep judging his comments, which are hellbanned for good reason.

asveikau 13y ago
I haven't seen anything written by this guy. Can someone explain why people on HN seem to conflate mental illness with writing an operating system? Is this just the HN attitude of having just learned js/ruby yesterday and being afraid of low level details? I used to work on a small kernel just as a fun hobby project. I haven't had much time to do much with it lately but it was a lot of fun. I would think that this should be encouraged instead of mocked.
- icambron 13y ago
  No, no, he really is mentally ill and he really did write an impressive-looking operating system [1]. Also the post quoted above really is packed with racist vitriol. Take all of that literally. [1] http://www.templeos.org/ http://www.templeos.org/
- nullymcnull 13y ago
  You're way off base here - consider turning on showdead and reading some of his posts, or even just googling the guy, before making wild assumptions. Nobody is snarking on losethos and designating him mentally ill because he wrote an OS. losethos is genuinely mentally ill.
  - asveikau 13y ago
    I did google him. The impression I get from HN comments: 1. I see posts making fun of this guy's mental illness. 2. I see posts making fun of how he's working on an OS. I don't think either one is particularly cool.
    - nknighthb 13y ago
      Did you turn on showdead and read his comments as you were advised to, or did you just decide to remain willfully ignorant while drawing absurd conclusions?
      - asveikau 13y ago
        Can you please re-read what you're replying to? I do not feel that it went through. I presume from your response that you are OK with: 1. Making fun of mental illness. (I hope that mental illness doesn't have to afflict your family before you realize what's wrong with that.) 2. Making fun of working on an OS. (Still uncool.) To answer your question, yes, I read his comments.
        nknighthb 13y ago
        I presume from your response that you're an arrogant, presumptuous asshole who can't conceive of the possibility that someone disagrees with your characterizations.
        asveikau 13y ago
        Ouch. I'll keep that in mind for next time I attempt a kind word for people with mental illness, that nknighthb has a problem with that.
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- derleth 13y ago
  > Can someone explain why people on HN seem to conflate mental illness with writing an operating system? Nobody here does. It's just that this specific guy happens to have written a simple graphical OS from scratch apparently without anyone else's help. He also believes God speaks to him through random noise and posts random text created from mixing up Bible verses as being what God just said. He is, really, classic schizophrenic. There's no other way to say it. He hears voices nobody else can hear and he believes it is God talking to him. > Is this just the HN attitude of having just learned js/ruby yesterday and being afraid of low level details? Now you're just embarrassing yourself.
  - asveikau 13y ago
    > Now you're just embarrassing yourself. No actually, I am not embarrassed to point out that this problem exists on HN. Read any comment thread that deals with low-level anything. It's painful. Edit: Prerequisite: to feel just how painful it is, you must understand the topic being discussed.
    - derleth 13y ago
      > to feel just how painful it is, you must understand the topic being discussed. Of course I do, which is why your comments are so laughable.
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    - rjbwork 13y ago
      LoseThos is a self-admitted schizophrenic who frequently posts racist and religious rants that are extremely diverged from reality. This has nothing to do with low level details of anything, and much more to do with the fact that LoseThos is genuinely mentally ill, yet also wrote a strange, beautiful, functional system.
      - Luyt 13y ago
        A video of TempleOS (formerly known as losethos): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0MsDl39UL0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0MsDl39UL0 That's really weird stuff.
- barbs 13y ago
  Turn on showdead and check his comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=losethos https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=losethos
- asveikau 13y ago
  Downvotes continue. I have seen this story before. For a self-styled "hacker" community this place values orthodoxy an awful lot. And passive aggressiveness to boot. I think it must come from an excess of javascript and VC bullshit. ducks Also they are unable to tell when I am joking or exaggerating.

termain 13y ago

Maybe someone can put together some sort of losethos filter bot to automate the hoisting.

nullymcnull 13y ago

I'm not sure there's enough substance buried in the racist drivel to be worth bothering in this case. More than a few of us here are old enough to have spent afternoons typing in BASIC programs with lots of DATA sections from the back pages of computer magazines. I'm struggling to understand how an anecdote about that brings much that is 'relevant' or 'salient' to a discussion of truly oddball languages like BANCStar.

JohnnyBrown 13y ago

It's also interesting that whenever the subject of losethos is brought up, the discussions take a strangely reliable turn. Someone (or several someones) makes a comment that includes the words "mental illness", racist/racism, religous/religion, medication.