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Er, that reads quite differently in context than it does here.

omegaham 13y ago
The guy is an sad combination of brilliant and stark raving mad. If he were medicated, I think he'd be a decent guy. In the meantime, he appears to be a homeless guy wearing a sandwich board and yelling gibberish into a bullhorn. Who made a complete operating system.
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- logicallee 13y ago
  re: losethos What I've seen of his writing here (by clicking on my profile, turning on showdead, and going to userpage losethos) is about as mad as this, http://www.chartrain.org/PDF/Finnegans.pdf http://www.chartrain.org/PDF/Finnegans.pdf Actually, considerably less mad. Try to read that, and then try to read losethos's comments. which can you at least get some sense out of? Why, losethos - if you ignore the 'crazy' sentences. If you ignore the 'crazy' sentences in the above link, by contrast, you are left with only chapter numbers and the closing words "Paris, 1922-1939." At least in Losethos there is something in between the 'crazy' stuff. Anyway, why did I choose the above link for comparison? Because it's James Joyce! So returning to Losethos. He might be 'stark, raving mad', but at least there's something to read and understand if we ignore all the detours. Anyone who dismisses him outright clearly doesn't have a liberal arts education grounded in having to read real nonsense. After reading some of his posts, I have nothing to declare about his mental health - and neither should you.
  - nknighthb 13y ago
    > I have nothing to declare about his mental health - and neither should you. He told the world he was schizophrenic, as well as describing at various times his (clearly schizophrenic) rationale for certain things, such as the random number generator that he believes God uses to talk to him. It's not a secret, and it's not something anybody is just guessing about.
    - logicallee 13y ago
      That's useful, and you should link it. It would have saved this thread a lot of arguing. (People misinterpreted the issue to be that he hand-coded an OS.)
      - nknighthb 13y ago
        The person who willfully misinterpreted it in that utterly nonsensical way claims to have now done his homework, so he should have found it already. Losethos has left an easily-followed trail across far larger swaths of the internet than just HN. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3434374&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=4 http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=343...
        logicallee 13y ago
        Is... >>losethos are you schizophrenic? >Definitely. Are you? One minute accusing me of disability fraud, next minute not ntaking meds. ...the extent of your claim that he "he told the world he was schizophrenic" or can you find a more specific link?
        nknighthb 13y ago
        Seems plenty specific to me. There's also [1]. And as far as I've seen, he's never disputed it anywhere. You've edited it from your post now, but that he has strong credentials is neither in dispute nor relevant. Schizophrenia can present at different times in life, and even when its onset is early and obvious, it may not become anywhere close to debilitating for many years, even without any treatment at all. [1] http://www.metafilter.com/119424/An-Operating-System-for-Songs-from-God http://www.metafilter.com/119424/An-Operating-System-for-Son...
        logicallee 13y ago
        Interesting. In spite of all the outbursts, still more readable than Finnegan's Wake, though. I can also see someone doing this exact same thing while trolling. So, for now, I will not go from a look at some guy's weird comment history to making a medical diagnosis of a stranger over the Internet. And I don't think anyone else should either. It would also be interesting for you to apply your diagnosis skills to religious claims throughout history that God has spoken to someone, if you are able to do so over the Internet.
  - tokenrove 13y ago
    Comparing Joyce with schizophrenia is to understand neither and to do a grave disservice to both.
salgernon 13y ago
The problem is that losethos is quite obviously suffering from a severe mental disorder. His posts are not usually so racist, but almost always include a lot of religious, well, insanity. It's sad because a few lines of his posts are usually very much on topic, buried in a morass of debilitating drivel. I don't know what he's like if/when he's on medication, but to me, it seems a shame that his posts end up not being seen. To that end, I appreciate someone having hoisted the salient portion.
- icambron 13y ago
  I get that he's mentally ill (I read up on his OS the other day), but I do take exception to the repost of part of his comment. Because his comment is ridiculous. "Monkey" is meant as a racial slur. "American" is meant comparatively (where the smart people learn assembler!), not just incidentally. Taking it out of context like that doesn't make it salient just because it's not as obvious what it means. So it's fine, I guess, not to judge him, but we ought to keep judging his comments, which are hellbanned for good reason.
  - asveikau 13y ago
    I haven't seen anything written by this guy. Can someone explain why people on HN seem to conflate mental illness with writing an operating system? Is this just the HN attitude of having just learned js/ruby yesterday and being afraid of low level details? I used to work on a small kernel just as a fun hobby project. I haven't had much time to do much with it lately but it was a lot of fun. I would think that this should be encouraged instead of mocked.
    - icambron 13y ago
      No, no, he really is mentally ill and he really did write an impressive-looking operating system [1]. Also the post quoted above really is packed with racist vitriol. Take all of that literally. [1] http://www.templeos.org/ http://www.templeos.org/
    - nullymcnull 13y ago

The guy is an sad combination of brilliant and stark raving mad. If he were medicated, I think he'd be a decent guy. In the meantime, he appears to be a homeless guy wearing a sandwich board and yelling gibberish into a bullhorn. Who made a complete operating system.

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logicallee 13y ago
re: losethos What I've seen of his writing here (by clicking on my profile, turning on showdead, and going to userpage losethos) is about as mad as this, http://www.chartrain.org/PDF/Finnegans.pdf http://www.chartrain.org/PDF/Finnegans.pdf Actually, considerably less mad. Try to read that, and then try to read losethos's comments. which can you at least get some sense out of? Why, losethos - if you ignore the 'crazy' sentences. If you ignore the 'crazy' sentences in the above link, by contrast, you are left with only chapter numbers and the closing words "Paris, 1922-1939." At least in Losethos there is something in between the 'crazy' stuff. Anyway, why did I choose the above link for comparison? Because it's James Joyce! So returning to Losethos. He might be 'stark, raving mad', but at least there's something to read and understand if we ignore all the detours. Anyone who dismisses him outright clearly doesn't have a liberal arts education grounded in having to read real nonsense. After reading some of his posts, I have nothing to declare about his mental health - and neither should you.
- nknighthb 13y ago
  > I have nothing to declare about his mental health - and neither should you. He told the world he was schizophrenic, as well as describing at various times his (clearly schizophrenic) rationale for certain things, such as the random number generator that he believes God uses to talk to him. It's not a secret, and it's not something anybody is just guessing about.
  - logicallee 13y ago
    That's useful, and you should link it. It would have saved this thread a lot of arguing. (People misinterpreted the issue to be that he hand-coded an OS.)
    - nknighthb 13y ago
      The person who willfully misinterpreted it in that utterly nonsensical way claims to have now done his homework, so he should have found it already. Losethos has left an easily-followed trail across far larger swaths of the internet than just HN. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3434374&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=4 http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=343...
      - logicallee 13y ago
        Is... >>losethos are you schizophrenic? >Definitely. Are you? One minute accusing me of disability fraud, next minute not ntaking meds. ...the extent of your claim that he "he told the world he was schizophrenic" or can you find a more specific link?
        nknighthb 13y ago
        Seems plenty specific to me. There's also [1]. And as far as I've seen, he's never disputed it anywhere. You've edited it from your post now, but that he has strong credentials is neither in dispute nor relevant. Schizophrenia can present at different times in life, and even when its onset is early and obvious, it may not become anywhere close to debilitating for many years, even without any treatment at all. [1] http://www.metafilter.com/119424/An-Operating-System-for-Songs-from-God http://www.metafilter.com/119424/An-Operating-System-for-Son...
        logicallee 13y ago
        Interesting. In spite of all the outbursts, still more readable than Finnegan's Wake, though. I can also see someone doing this exact same thing while trolling. So, for now, I will not go from a look at some guy's weird comment history to making a medical diagnosis of a stranger over the Internet. And I don't think anyone else should either. It would also be interesting for you to apply your diagnosis skills to religious claims throughout history that God has spoken to someone, if you are able to do so over the Internet.
- tokenrove 13y ago
  Comparing Joyce with schizophrenia is to understand neither and to do a grave disservice to both.

salgernon 13y ago

The problem is that losethos is quite obviously suffering from a severe mental disorder. His posts are not usually so racist, but almost always include a lot of religious, well, insanity. It's sad because a few lines of his posts are usually very much on topic, buried in a morass of debilitating drivel. I don't know what he's like if/when he's on medication, but to me, it seems a shame that his posts end up not being seen. To that end, I appreciate someone having hoisted the salient portion.

icambron 13y ago
I get that he's mentally ill (I read up on his OS the other day), but I do take exception to the repost of part of his comment. Because his comment is ridiculous. "Monkey" is meant as a racial slur. "American" is meant comparatively (where the smart people learn assembler!), not just incidentally. Taking it out of context like that doesn't make it salient just because it's not as obvious what it means. So it's fine, I guess, not to judge him, but we ought to keep judging his comments, which are hellbanned for good reason.
- asveikau 13y ago
  I haven't seen anything written by this guy. Can someone explain why people on HN seem to conflate mental illness with writing an operating system? Is this just the HN attitude of having just learned js/ruby yesterday and being afraid of low level details? I used to work on a small kernel just as a fun hobby project. I haven't had much time to do much with it lately but it was a lot of fun. I would think that this should be encouraged instead of mocked.
  - icambron 13y ago
    No, no, he really is mentally ill and he really did write an impressive-looking operating system [1]. Also the post quoted above really is packed with racist vitriol. Take all of that literally. [1] http://www.templeos.org/ http://www.templeos.org/
  - nullymcnull 13y ago