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Who is going to pay you for the risk of confrontation? Like others already said, its not your job to oversee the management. As a team member priority number on

Who is going to pay you for the risk of confrontation? Like others already said, its not your job to oversee the management. As a team member priority number one is to keep the peace. The best you can do it to give small hints here and there by asking for justification/vision/mission statement that makes sense. If management don't catch on the hints, there is nothing else you can do. I am surprised this person has so much vision over the state of the business, if there is nothing else that can explain the situation you have to leave.

philsnow 13y ago
> its not your job to oversee the management. As a team member priority number one is to keep the peace. I strenuously disagree; employees should have the right, if not the obligation, to keep their direct management honest [0]. It forestalls situations that turn into HN horror stories. If you feel like doing so would put your employment in jeopardy, all you can do is take orders, right ? [0] by "keep them honest" I don't mean to imply that management lies to employees; it's a figure of speech in American English that AFAIK means to make sure the other party knows that you're watching out for any foul play.
- vladimirralev 13y ago
  I've heard this before, but there is only so much you can do. You can't be constantly calling your manager on his bullshit. What kind of relationship are you going to have this way? I agree with you to the extent that you can give hints and ask the manager one or two tough questions. Once the OP raised the issue with the lost money and the case was dismissed, that's all you can do. Some managers are passive-aggressive, they will exploit the peace and just sit and wait to be confronted about everything. And any confrontation labels you abrasive or without respect for authority and that puts you into a losing situation. You must know what kind of person you are dealing with. A bad manager is a bad manager. Best option is to leave asap, if you have a bad manager you will never advance your career.
  - philsnow 13y ago
    > You can't be constantly calling your manager on his bullshit. What kind of relationship are you going to have this way? No relationship, since if I find I _have_ to call my manager on bullshit repeatedly, why would I waste my time in that position ? > A bad manager is a bad manager. Best option is to leave asap, if you have a bad manager you will never advance your career. ah yeah you came to the same conclusion as me :) I thought you were saying, one should just tough it out upon finding oneself reporting to a bullshitty manager.
  - DougN7 13y ago
    > You can't be constantly calling your manager on his bullshit. That's the secret - pick your battles. You only have so much political and social capital, but it is rarely zero. Definitely use it if it might save the company.

philsnow 13y ago

> its not your job to oversee the management. As a team member priority number one is to keep the peace. I strenuously disagree; employees should have the right, if not the obligation, to keep their direct management honest [0]. It forestalls situations that turn into HN horror stories. If you feel like doing so would put your employment in jeopardy, all you can do is take orders, right ? [0] by "keep them honest" I don't mean to imply that management lies to employees; it's a figure of speech in American English that AFAIK means to make sure the other party knows that you're watching out for any foul play.

vladimirralev 13y ago
I've heard this before, but there is only so much you can do. You can't be constantly calling your manager on his bullshit. What kind of relationship are you going to have this way? I agree with you to the extent that you can give hints and ask the manager one or two tough questions. Once the OP raised the issue with the lost money and the case was dismissed, that's all you can do. Some managers are passive-aggressive, they will exploit the peace and just sit and wait to be confronted about everything. And any confrontation labels you abrasive or without respect for authority and that puts you into a losing situation. You must know what kind of person you are dealing with. A bad manager is a bad manager. Best option is to leave asap, if you have a bad manager you will never advance your career.
- philsnow 13y ago
  > You can't be constantly calling your manager on his bullshit. What kind of relationship are you going to have this way? No relationship, since if I find I _have_ to call my manager on bullshit repeatedly, why would I waste my time in that position ? > A bad manager is a bad manager. Best option is to leave asap, if you have a bad manager you will never advance your career. ah yeah you came to the same conclusion as me :) I thought you were saying, one should just tough it out upon finding oneself reporting to a bullshitty manager.
- DougN7 13y ago
  > You can't be constantly calling your manager on his bullshit. That's the secret - pick your battles. You only have so much political and social capital, but it is rarely zero. Definitely use it if it might save the company.