>>> And further, the exact stuff that the NSA is most interested in is going to be the first to go. It's already gone. That's what's so insidious about this wh

>>> And further, the exact stuff that the NSA is most interested in is going to be the first to go. It's already gone. That's what's so insidious about this whole NSA/CIA/FBI/DHS/DEA debacle: it's all a wasteful charade. They haven't caught __anyone__. They haven't stopped __anything__ of import. It's a bunch of bureaucrats playing cold war with real lives and money. They shouldn't have access to anything because they don't DO anything worthwhile with it. The world is getting safer. Information/education (power) via technology is being shifted to the individual in a big way and they HATE it because it makes them irrelevant. The current state of the government three letter agencies is an ongoing FUD apparatus that exists for almost no other purpose than self sustenance. The NSA has systematically and illegally shared information with the DEA and other domestic law enforcement[1]. It has done so while encouraging them to cover it up using “parallel construction” to establish probable cause for an arrest. The FBI entraps people into terror plots and then "busted" them[2]. The ATF sells guns to the Mexican drug cartels[3]. Look at the sources below. It's Forbes, The New York Times and The Washington Post. This isn't edge case conspiracy theory. This is systematic institutionalized corruption covered daily in the main stream press . The military industrial complex and it's self-sustaining security theater is eating billions (trillions?) in real tax payer money and costing us god knows what via chilling effects and opportunity costs of human lives ruined or snuffed out. It makes me sick to think about the scale of the losses. The only good news is we (as in we, the people) are winning, as of now. We can all still talk about this stuff without secret police showing up at our door. And, more importantly we ARE talking about it. Everyone is pissed, congress' approval rating is 11%. Pretty soon everybody will know everything. Obama, Holder, Clapper and co have a lot more to hide than we do. That's why the government and their financiers are so freaked out and paranoid. [1] http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/08/05/the-nsa-is-giving-your-phone-records-to-the-dea-and-the-dea-is-covering-it-up/ http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/08/05... [2] http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/opinion/sunday/terrorist-plots-helped-along-by-the-fbi.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/opinion/sunday/terrorist-p... [3]http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2011/09/28/fast-and-furious-just-might-be-president-obamas-watergate/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2011/09/28/fast-and-fur...