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As a matter of fact, I have. Except that I still owed the taxman a lot of money, and was hitting up everyone I knew for loans to keep him off my back just a bit

As a matter of fact, I have. Except that I still owed the taxman a lot of money, and was hitting up everyone I knew for loans to keep him off my back just a bit longer, all while working 16+ hour days, 7 days a week in an incubator, trying to get a new business off the ground so that I could get some money coming in and eventually pay everyone back. I learned a LOT of lessons in frugality, and as of last year I'm finally in the clear, hopefully forever this time. It's a shitty situation, but it's not an insurmountable problem. Life ain't fair and nobody owes you shit. You may not be responsible for the situation you're in, but nobody's going to drag you out, so you have to drag yourself out. Or just sit there and die. Your choice.

angersock 13y ago
mmmmm yes golden bootstraps all around Look, it's something that is surmountable, but we shouldn't for a second treat people in that situation with anything but compassion.
Daishiman 13y ago
Good, you had the energy, youth and education to know how to acquire loans without getting shorted, working 16 hours without preoccupation for other things aside from your own well-being (your business very much counts as that), and in the context of an incubator. Now think of someone with little formal education who has been taught all his life that there is not way to solve those issues because you don't know anyone who has gotten out of that shithole. What motivation would you have? People seem to underestimate how important is to have a glimmer of hope that a situation is insurmountable. Sitting in a couch watching TV is not an irrational response for spending decades under that situation without any possibility of clawing your way out.
r0s 13y ago
Or just, avoid stress by working a reasonable amount of time and planning your meals. I think they call that working smarter.

angersock 13y ago

mmmmm yes golden bootstraps all around Look, it's something that is surmountable, but we shouldn't for a second treat people in that situation with anything but compassion.

Daishiman 13y ago

Good, you had the energy, youth and education to know how to acquire loans without getting shorted, working 16 hours without preoccupation for other things aside from your own well-being (your business very much counts as that), and in the context of an incubator. Now think of someone with little formal education who has been taught all his life that there is not way to solve those issues because you don't know anyone who has gotten out of that shithole. What motivation would you have? People seem to underestimate how important is to have a glimmer of hope that a situation is insurmountable. Sitting in a couch watching TV is not an irrational response for spending decades under that situation without any possibility of clawing your way out.

r0s 13y ago

Or just, avoid stress by working a reasonable amount of time and planning your meals. I think they call that working smarter.