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I don't understand why "no removable storage" implies that you'd have to use a cloud provider? Why not just use the fixed internal storage?

by Tichy 13y ago

Amadou 13y ago
If you've got a kid, especially a young one, 16GB isn't enough for pictures and video. Not even close. My niece has filled her 64GB iphone many times over with shots of her kid. I'm sure there are tons of other use cases too.
- conradfr 13y ago
  Secret feature : plug your phone on a computer via USB and transfer your pictures.
  - Amadou 13y ago
    There are so many obvious flaws in that statement, here's two: 1) The assumption that the person who owns the phone owns a computer, rather than borrows someone else's when they need it. Modern phones have hdmi outputs, and work with bluetooth keyboards. It is entirely feasible for the average person to use a high-end phone as their primary computing device. Especially with the carrier subsidies making the up-front cost so low. This will only become more common as phones get more powerful. 2) When you've moved the data off your phone it is no longer immediately at hand. Flash storage is cheap and only getting cheaper, leaving off a micro-sd slot is all about pushing a cloud-storage paradigm rather than letting the user decide.
    - conradfr 13y ago
      I'm not saying a sd slot would not be better, just that you're not that screwed without it and no cloud. So maybe ok, if you don't have a computer, don't buy a Nexus 4. Or buy a computer with the difference of prices between a S4 and a N4.
      - Amadou 13y ago
        Or simply have more than 16GB of stuff that you want to have at hand.
    - Tichy 13y ago
      Can you get a micro-sd card that is several times as big as 64GB? Or is the concept to keep a pile of sd-cards with all your data on it? I guess it is conceivable, but why would anybody want that?
      - Amadou 13y ago
        128GB cards are widely available. The spec is good for up to 2TB, so it is only a matter of time. Meanwhile carrying a couple of extra cards tucked into the case of the phone is basically no effort at all. https://www.sdcard.org/consumers/sdxc_capabilities/ https://www.sdcard.org/consumers/sdxc_capabilities/
- Tichy 13y ago
  But then what do you want? Isn't there a technical limit to how much local storage a phone can have? Syncing to some external disk seems unavoidable?
- scott_karana 13y ago
  "Isn't enough for pictures" really depends on the frequency that you offload photos from the phone. Personally, if I'm storing important memories, I am NOT going to trust a loseable, breakable thing in my pocket to be the final resting place of JPEGs.

I don't understand why "no removable storage" implies that you'd have to use a cloud provider? Why not just use the fixed internal storage?

by Tichy 13y ago

I don't understand why "no removable storage" implies that you'd have to use a cloud provider? Why not just use the fixed internal storage?

Amadou 13y ago

If you've got a kid, especially a young one, 16GB isn't enough for pictures and video. Not even close. My niece has filled her 64GB iphone many times over with shots of her kid. I'm sure there are tons of other use cases too.

conradfr 13y ago
Secret feature : plug your phone on a computer via USB and transfer your pictures.
- Amadou 13y ago
  There are so many obvious flaws in that statement, here's two: 1) The assumption that the person who owns the phone owns a computer, rather than borrows someone else's when they need it. Modern phones have hdmi outputs, and work with bluetooth keyboards. It is entirely feasible for the average person to use a high-end phone as their primary computing device. Especially with the carrier subsidies making the up-front cost so low. This will only become more common as phones get more powerful. 2) When you've moved the data off your phone it is no longer immediately at hand. Flash storage is cheap and only getting cheaper, leaving off a micro-sd slot is all about pushing a cloud-storage paradigm rather than letting the user decide.
  - conradfr 13y ago
    I'm not saying a sd slot would not be better, just that you're not that screwed without it and no cloud. So maybe ok, if you don't have a computer, don't buy a Nexus 4. Or buy a computer with the difference of prices between a S4 and a N4.
    - Amadou 13y ago
      Or simply have more than 16GB of stuff that you want to have at hand.
  - Tichy 13y ago
    Can you get a micro-sd card that is several times as big as 64GB? Or is the concept to keep a pile of sd-cards with all your data on it? I guess it is conceivable, but why would anybody want that?
    - Amadou 13y ago
      128GB cards are widely available. The spec is good for up to 2TB, so it is only a matter of time. Meanwhile carrying a couple of extra cards tucked into the case of the phone is basically no effort at all. https://www.sdcard.org/consumers/sdxc_capabilities/ https://www.sdcard.org/consumers/sdxc_capabilities/
Tichy 13y ago
But then what do you want? Isn't there a technical limit to how much local storage a phone can have? Syncing to some external disk seems unavoidable?
scott_karana 13y ago
"Isn't enough for pictures" really depends on the frequency that you offload photos from the phone. Personally, if I'm storing important memories, I am NOT going to trust a loseable, breakable thing in my pocket to be the final resting place of JPEGs.