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"All this link says to me is that the people who hang in comp.lang.javascript are all a bunch of smug pricks." I don't see that. "David Mark comes across like

"All this link says to me is that the people who hang in comp.lang.javascript are all a bunch of smug pricks." I don't see that. "David Mark comes across like a complete ass. And while his critique of jQuery might have some validity, his tone and attitude are such a turn off, and the consequence of him being "right" is not really all that important in the grand scheme of things." Being right doesn't matter? That's some scheme you have there. "People build cool shit with jQuery. That's all that is important. While "My Library" might be better, rate of adoption is sometimes more important than correctness. Specifically for something as trivial as javascript. If it's really important to him, why isn't he participating in making jQuery better since "My Library" is used by virtually nobody. From the read, it seems like his ego is getting in the way. And it's funny that, considering he hasn't done much noteworthy otherwise." You don't seem to know anything about My Library (or David Mark for that matter.) Why don't you do some reading and try again.

hufnagel 17y ago
Being respected doesn't matter? Were you dissed as a young programmer? Did somebody take your beautiful 'hello world' creation and laugh in your face at its inefficiency? What do you gain exactly, by coming across as a 'smug prick' or a 'complete ass'?
jemmons 17y ago
"Being right doesn't matter? That's some scheme you have there." Yet it's the overwhelming opinion of many here. Just look at these comments. We're trying to do you a favor, man. Let me offer you the constructive criticism you didn't offer in your post: If you propose a theory in the spirit of honest debate and camaraderie, and that theory is proven to be incorrect, no one remembers that you were the dude with the "wrong theory". All they remember is the right theory and that you helped to frame it. On the other hand, if you put forth a theory like an asshole, and that theory is proven to be correct, you're still an asshole. Sure, this probably doesn't seem fair from a meritocratic point of view. But it's one of the laws of the world we live in, same as gravity. I think you'd end up encountering a great deal more success if you started factoring it into your equations.
- DavidMark 17y ago
  "We're trying to do you a favor, man." LOL. Don't do me any favors. Thanks!

hufnagel 17y ago

Being respected doesn't matter? Were you dissed as a young programmer? Did somebody take your beautiful 'hello world' creation and laugh in your face at its inefficiency? What do you gain exactly, by coming across as a 'smug prick' or a 'complete ass'?

jemmons 17y ago

"Being right doesn't matter? That's some scheme you have there." Yet it's the overwhelming opinion of many here. Just look at these comments. We're trying to do you a favor, man. Let me offer you the constructive criticism you didn't offer in your post: If you propose a theory in the spirit of honest debate and camaraderie, and that theory is proven to be incorrect, no one remembers that you were the dude with the "wrong theory". All they remember is the right theory and that you helped to frame it. On the other hand, if you put forth a theory like an asshole, and that theory is proven to be correct, you're still an asshole. Sure, this probably doesn't seem fair from a meritocratic point of view. But it's one of the laws of the world we live in, same as gravity. I think you'd end up encountering a great deal more success if you started factoring it into your equations.

DavidMark 17y ago
"We're trying to do you a favor, man." LOL. Don't do me any favors. Thanks!