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Just give it time - it will get discontinued like every other google project.

jensenbox 13y ago
Or they will make it play an advertisement before you can watch anything.
jensenbox 13y ago
Or they will use it to track every video you watch and post it on Google+ - for your convenience. All the while serving ads that are suited to your taste based on the video you are watching.
- timothya 13y ago
  Or they will use it to track every video you watch and post it on Google+ Please don't spread misinformation; this doesn't happen. All the while serving ads that are suited to your taste based on the video you are watching. Yes, Google is able to show you videos for free by using ads. Would you prefer that they weren't suited to your taste or related to the video that you're watching? And would you prefer to have to see more ads because they would be less effective in that case?
eliben 13y ago
Naturally, when MS implements WebM, this project will not be needed any longer and can be discontinued. Seriously, why so much negativity?
- RyanZAG 13y ago
  Yeah right. More likely this will be discontinued in 3 years time when Google has transitioned Youtube fully to WebM and has managed to convince enough web video to move across also. At that point, WebM for IE9 will be abandoned and a message will be placed on Youtube: "Your browser does not support WebM. Upgrade to Chrome to use Youtube!"
  - wtetzner 13y ago
    Which will be for the good of everyone. In 3 years time, people should have moved on from IE9.
aniket_ray 13y ago
Off OP's topic but I find this post on every HN post about Google launching something and frankly this post adds little value to the discussion. Google Reader is dead and it's not coming back. Reader usage was extremely low and it made no business sense for Google to run it. If Reader actually had enough users, Google wouldn't have shut it down. Many entrepreneurs, including me in the past, have had to take this decision to shut our services because they did not have enough traction. Failure is part of taking a risk and you should be more appreciative of the risk. I was angry at the Reader shutdown too as I was an avid Reader user. I was quick to switch to Feedly but lately I find myself being infrequent checking my RSS feed. I seem to be getting more and more of my news from techmeme and hacker news. When I talk to tech friends about this, it seems the they were already doing this. The rest of the world had already moved on and I was just late to realize this. Was I angry at first? Yes. Am I still angry? No. PS: I'm an engineer at Google right now.
- jensenbox 13y ago
  The comment was not just about Reader - it is about fact: http://jensenbox.github.io/timeline/ http://jensenbox.github.io/timeline/
  - patrickaljord 13y ago
    What fact? The fact that out of hundreds of services, they shut down 12? Even 37signals shut down some of their products and they have very few. Also, this list features google maps api v2 and v1, come on, this is ridiculous. I also see plenty of stuff no one used or that were replaced by services that everyone enjoy (google video by youtube).
    - anon1385 13y ago
      They have shut down (among others) Code Search, Google Video, Wave, Buzz, Google Labs, Google Desktop, Google Notebook, Google Sets, Google Listen, Google Reader, Google Squared, Google Catalogs, Google Answers, Audio Ads, Google Base, Browser Sync, City Tours, Click-to-Call, Google Dashboard Widgets, Dodgeball, Jaiku, Google Mashup Editor, Google Directory, GOOG-411, Joga Bonito, Aardvark, Lively, Music Trends, Ride Finder, Google Shared Stuff, Sidewiki, FastFlip, Google Translate API, Writely, Google Health, Google Spell, PowerMeter, Google University Search, U.S. Government Search, Slide products (Disco, Pool Party, Video Inbox, Photovine, Slideshow, SuperPoke! Pets), Google Pack, Google Search API, Image Labeller and Google Dictionary.
patrickaljord 13y ago
Do we really need to get this kind of comment every single time there's an article about Google? This is getting tiring.
- Dylan16807 13y ago
  Only when google asks us to trust them to provide a service.
  - lclarkmichalek 13y ago
    Good thing you don't for WebM seeing as it's an open standard
    - Dylan16807 13y ago
      WebM is a standard. WebM for Internet Explorer is a plugin. It needs to stay supported.
jamesaguilar 13y ago
Totally. Just like gmail, calendar, chrome, android, search, images, drive, and analytics have been. Disclosure: googler.
- anon1385 13y ago
  It seems you have forgotten about Code Search, Google Video, Wave, Buzz, Google Labs, Google Desktop, Google Notebook, Google Sets, Google Listen, Google Reader, Google Squared, Google Catalogs, Google Answers, Audio Ads, Google Base, Browser Sync, City Tours, Click-to-Call, Google Dashboard Widgets, Dodgeball, Jaiku, Google Mashup Editor, Google Directory, GOOG-411, Joga Bonito, Aardvark, Lively, Music Trends, Ride Finder, Google Shared Stuff, Sidewiki, FastFlip, Google Translate API, Writely, Google Health, Google Spell, PowerMeter, Google University Search, U.S. Government Search, Slide products (Disco, Pool Party, Video Inbox, Photovine, Slideshow, SuperPoke! Pets), Google Pack, Google Search API, Image Labeller and Google Dictionary.
  - jamesaguilar 13y ago
    That Google closes some properties is not in dispute. I'm not sure how you got the impression it was. Most of the stuff you listed suffered from a combination of {nil or close to nil traction, better alternatives outside Google, duplicate functionality to other Google products}, and almost all of them operated as services, unlike the plugin under discussion.
    - giovannibajo1 13y ago
      The number of desktop-based products closed by Google is far more significant, as a percent of those released. Basically, excluding obviously Chrome, they are shutting down every single desktop tool (toolbars, plugins, desktop search, enterprise syncing tools, etc.). I don't think it's unreasonable to forecast that this IE9 plugin might get discontinued at some point for a combination of { no traction, better alternatives from ffmpeg/vlc, irrelevance of VP8 when VP9 is out }. At the same time, I can't see it as a crucial part of any business (I doubt there will be any WebM-based business soon, for now), so I don't see a real problem in getting/using it while it exists.
ahoge 13y ago
>it will get discontinued like every other google project Yes, of course it will get discontinued at some point. Just like any other software project by any other company. This particular project is similar to Chrome Frame. It's a stopgap solution. It adds/polyfills functionality which should be there out of the box. It's supposed to lose its raison d'être. That's what we're all wishing and waiting for.

Or they will make it play an advertisement before you can watch anything.

Or they will use it to track every video you watch and post it on Google+ - for your convenience. All the while serving ads that are suited to your taste based on the video you are watching.

timothya 13y ago
Or they will use it to track every video you watch and post it on Google+ Please don't spread misinformation; this doesn't happen. All the while serving ads that are suited to your taste based on the video you are watching. Yes, Google is able to show you videos for free by using ads. Would you prefer that they weren't suited to your taste or related to the video that you're watching? And would you prefer to have to see more ads because they would be less effective in that case?

eliben 13y ago

Naturally, when MS implements WebM, this project will not be needed any longer and can be discontinued. Seriously, why so much negativity?

RyanZAG 13y ago
Yeah right. More likely this will be discontinued in 3 years time when Google has transitioned Youtube fully to WebM and has managed to convince enough web video to move across also. At that point, WebM for IE9 will be abandoned and a message will be placed on Youtube: "Your browser does not support WebM. Upgrade to Chrome to use Youtube!"
- wtetzner 13y ago
  Which will be for the good of everyone. In 3 years time, people should have moved on from IE9.

aniket_ray 13y ago

Off OP's topic but I find this post on every HN post about Google launching something and frankly this post adds little value to the discussion. Google Reader is dead and it's not coming back. Reader usage was extremely low and it made no business sense for Google to run it. If Reader actually had enough users, Google wouldn't have shut it down. Many entrepreneurs, including me in the past, have had to take this decision to shut our services because they did not have enough traction. Failure is part of taking a risk and you should be more appreciative of the risk. I was angry at the Reader shutdown too as I was an avid Reader user. I was quick to switch to Feedly but lately I find myself being infrequent checking my RSS feed. I seem to be getting more and more of my news from techmeme and hacker news. When I talk to tech friends about this, it seems the they were already doing this. The rest of the world had already moved on and I was just late to realize this. Was I angry at first? Yes. Am I still angry? No. PS: I'm an engineer at Google right now.

jensenbox 13y ago
The comment was not just about Reader - it is about fact: http://jensenbox.github.io/timeline/ http://jensenbox.github.io/timeline/
- patrickaljord 13y ago
  What fact? The fact that out of hundreds of services, they shut down 12? Even 37signals shut down some of their products and they have very few. Also, this list features google maps api v2 and v1, come on, this is ridiculous. I also see plenty of stuff no one used or that were replaced by services that everyone enjoy (google video by youtube).
  - anon1385 13y ago
    They have shut down (among others) Code Search, Google Video, Wave, Buzz, Google Labs, Google Desktop, Google Notebook, Google Sets, Google Listen, Google Reader, Google Squared, Google Catalogs, Google Answers, Audio Ads, Google Base, Browser Sync, City Tours, Click-to-Call, Google Dashboard Widgets, Dodgeball, Jaiku, Google Mashup Editor, Google Directory, GOOG-411, Joga Bonito, Aardvark, Lively, Music Trends, Ride Finder, Google Shared Stuff, Sidewiki, FastFlip, Google Translate API, Writely, Google Health, Google Spell, PowerMeter, Google University Search, U.S. Government Search, Slide products (Disco, Pool Party, Video Inbox, Photovine, Slideshow, SuperPoke! Pets), Google Pack, Google Search API, Image Labeller and Google Dictionary.

patrickaljord 13y ago

Do we really need to get this kind of comment every single time there's an article about Google? This is getting tiring.

Dylan16807 13y ago
Only when google asks us to trust them to provide a service.
- lclarkmichalek 13y ago
  Good thing you don't for WebM seeing as it's an open standard
  - Dylan16807 13y ago
    WebM is a standard. WebM for Internet Explorer is a plugin. It needs to stay supported.

jamesaguilar 13y ago

Totally. Just like gmail, calendar, chrome, android, search, images, drive, and analytics have been. Disclosure: googler.

anon1385 13y ago
It seems you have forgotten about Code Search, Google Video, Wave, Buzz, Google Labs, Google Desktop, Google Notebook, Google Sets, Google Listen, Google Reader, Google Squared, Google Catalogs, Google Answers, Audio Ads, Google Base, Browser Sync, City Tours, Click-to-Call, Google Dashboard Widgets, Dodgeball, Jaiku, Google Mashup Editor, Google Directory, GOOG-411, Joga Bonito, Aardvark, Lively, Music Trends, Ride Finder, Google Shared Stuff, Sidewiki, FastFlip, Google Translate API, Writely, Google Health, Google Spell, PowerMeter, Google University Search, U.S. Government Search, Slide products (Disco, Pool Party, Video Inbox, Photovine, Slideshow, SuperPoke! Pets), Google Pack, Google Search API, Image Labeller and Google Dictionary.
- jamesaguilar 13y ago
  That Google closes some properties is not in dispute. I'm not sure how you got the impression it was. Most of the stuff you listed suffered from a combination of {nil or close to nil traction, better alternatives outside Google, duplicate functionality to other Google products}, and almost all of them operated as services, unlike the plugin under discussion.
  - giovannibajo1 13y ago
    The number of desktop-based products closed by Google is far more significant, as a percent of those released. Basically, excluding obviously Chrome, they are shutting down every single desktop tool (toolbars, plugins, desktop search, enterprise syncing tools, etc.). I don't think it's unreasonable to forecast that this IE9 plugin might get discontinued at some point for a combination of { no traction, better alternatives from ffmpeg/vlc, irrelevance of VP8 when VP9 is out }. At the same time, I can't see it as a crucial part of any business (I doubt there will be any WebM-based business soon, for now), so I don't see a real problem in getting/using it while it exists.

ahoge 13y ago

>it will get discontinued like every other google project Yes, of course it will get discontinued at some point. Just like any other software project by any other company. This particular project is similar to Chrome Frame. It's a stopgap solution. It adds/polyfills functionality which should be there out of the box. It's supposed to lose its raison d'être. That's what we're all wishing and waiting for.