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I would be very surprised if what would clearly become a high-profile detainment wasn't choreographed ahead of time to the minute, the possible routes of questi

by andreyf 13y ago

I would be very surprised if what would clearly become a high-profile detainment wasn't choreographed ahead of time to the minute, the possible routes of questioning prepared, and the timing and contents of the phone call thought through and structures to elicit particular response. These are moves in a PR campaign of the utmost importance, not some random detention decided by a low-level bureaucrat.

Amadou 13y ago
Don't make the mistake of putting the cart before the horse. Just because things worked out a certain way is not proof that the end result was intentional.
joezydeco 13y ago
That's what puzzles me the most. It's like both sides are going through some highly planned, highly choreographed steps to do....something. Greenwald sends his husband all the way to Berlin and back to meet with Poitras? And he's allegedly (from some headlines this weekend) carrying all the Snowden documents? Wouldn't Greenwald already have this? Why would he send his husband and not some unknown person that was probably under the radar? And obviously the US/UK is trying to let the Snowden/Assange group know that their every step is being watched. I'm also guessing Poitras' safe house in Berlin is now not as safe anymore. This is like watching a spy novel unfold in real life. I can't wait for the book that eventually explains everything that is currently happening.
- andreyf 13y ago
  Also a bit strange that he went from Germany to Brazil via the UK, and was allegedly carrying documents, which seems harder than sending encrypted files over the internet. Even if journalists aren't themselves technical, surely the Guardian must have some specialists that can advise them on setting up communications which snooping governments can't intercept? As for what they're trying to accomplish... that seems like a fun thing to speculate about over drinks :)

by andreyf 13y ago

Amadou 13y ago

Don't make the mistake of putting the cart before the horse. Just because things worked out a certain way is not proof that the end result was intentional.

joezydeco 13y ago

That's what puzzles me the most. It's like both sides are going through some highly planned, highly choreographed steps to do....something. Greenwald sends his husband all the way to Berlin and back to meet with Poitras? And he's allegedly (from some headlines this weekend) carrying all the Snowden documents? Wouldn't Greenwald already have this? Why would he send his husband and not some unknown person that was probably under the radar? And obviously the US/UK is trying to let the Snowden/Assange group know that their every step is being watched. I'm also guessing Poitras' safe house in Berlin is now not as safe anymore. This is like watching a spy novel unfold in real life. I can't wait for the book that eventually explains everything that is currently happening.

andreyf 13y ago
Also a bit strange that he went from Germany to Brazil via the UK, and was allegedly carrying documents, which seems harder than sending encrypted files over the internet. Even if journalists aren't themselves technical, surely the Guardian must have some specialists that can advise them on setting up communications which snooping governments can't intercept? As for what they're trying to accomplish... that seems like a fun thing to speculate about over drinks :)