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My understanding is that Go is an open source project, of which the main maintainers are employed full-time by Google specifically in order to improve the langu

My understanding is that Go is an open source project, of which the main maintainers are employed full-time by Google specifically in order to improve the language and make it more useful and used within the company itself.

mrschwabe 13y ago
Sure, perhaps it could be said then that Go is similar to that of Android. Which is the prime example of one of Google's 'open' projects that has done wonders for its' industry. Yet given the NSA's surveillance scandal and Google's long history of a close & secretive working relationship with the NSA - today perhaps we should be questioning whether or not we are still comfortable using an Android device. Or programming with Go.
- tiziano88 13y ago
  The answer -- at least for me -- is "yes", as long the "open" component of those projects remains intact.
- turing 13y ago
  Yet given the NSA's surveillance scandal and Google's long history of a close & secretive working relationship with the NSA I'd love to hear evidence of this relationship instead of your speculative fear mongering.
  - mrschwabe 13y ago
    http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/05/google-nsa-secrecy-upheld/ http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/05/google-nsa-secrecy-... http://www.pcworld.com/article/217550/google_watchdog_white_house.html http://www.pcworld.com/article/217550/google_watchdog_white_...
    - cageface 13y ago
      Neither of these articles prove anything like the kind of claims you're making. I'm concerned about PRISM too but I've yet to see any evidence that Google is any more willingly complicit in it than any other US tech giant.
      - coldtea 13y ago
        Never understood the kind of people who wont believe obvious things without first seing a smoking gun on the hands of the culprit and/or a written confession. I guess it's what passes for valid to the politically naive.
        mrschwabe 13y ago
        Indeed. Put it this way, if you suspect a serial killer has taken residence in your neighborhood - are you going to wait around for a 'smoking gun' before making conscious decisions about your interactions with that individual?
        cageface 13y ago
        So what's your alternative if every single one of your neighbors is a serial killer? Like I said, I share your concerns about PRISM but singling out Google seems like losing the forest for a tree when we have abundant evidence that all the US tech giants have been forced to comply with NSA requests.
        mrschwabe 13y ago
        There's always another town. And likewise, so many alternatives to Google tech - and all solutions provided by the other 'giants'. Besides, this is an industry driven by technology & innovation. If there isn't a solution or an incumbent is dropping the ball - that's opportunity for geeks like us. Besides that, why give them the benefit of the doubt anyway? I have no qualms about singling out Google. Of all the 'giants' this is a company that has the most volume, quality, and relevant information on all of us. They need to be held accountable & scrutinized to the highest degree in the handling of said data. The fact that they are the company most active in their business relations & engagements with the intel sector should be ringing alarm bells.

mrschwabe 13y ago

Sure, perhaps it could be said then that Go is similar to that of Android. Which is the prime example of one of Google's 'open' projects that has done wonders for its' industry. Yet given the NSA's surveillance scandal and Google's long history of a close & secretive working relationship with the NSA - today perhaps we should be questioning whether or not we are still comfortable using an Android device. Or programming with Go.

tiziano88 13y ago
The answer -- at least for me -- is "yes", as long the "open" component of those projects remains intact.
turing 13y ago
Yet given the NSA's surveillance scandal and Google's long history of a close & secretive working relationship with the NSA I'd love to hear evidence of this relationship instead of your speculative fear mongering.
- mrschwabe 13y ago
  http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/05/google-nsa-secrecy-upheld/ http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/05/google-nsa-secrecy-... http://www.pcworld.com/article/217550/google_watchdog_white_house.html http://www.pcworld.com/article/217550/google_watchdog_white_...
  - cageface 13y ago
    Neither of these articles prove anything like the kind of claims you're making. I'm concerned about PRISM too but I've yet to see any evidence that Google is any more willingly complicit in it than any other US tech giant.
    - coldtea 13y ago
      Never understood the kind of people who wont believe obvious things without first seing a smoking gun on the hands of the culprit and/or a written confession. I guess it's what passes for valid to the politically naive.
      - mrschwabe 13y ago
        Indeed. Put it this way, if you suspect a serial killer has taken residence in your neighborhood - are you going to wait around for a 'smoking gun' before making conscious decisions about your interactions with that individual?
        cageface 13y ago
        So what's your alternative if every single one of your neighbors is a serial killer? Like I said, I share your concerns about PRISM but singling out Google seems like losing the forest for a tree when we have abundant evidence that all the US tech giants have been forced to comply with NSA requests.
        mrschwabe 13y ago
        There's always another town. And likewise, so many alternatives to Google tech - and all solutions provided by the other 'giants'. Besides, this is an industry driven by technology & innovation. If there isn't a solution or an incumbent is dropping the ball - that's opportunity for geeks like us. Besides that, why give them the benefit of the doubt anyway? I have no qualms about singling out Google. Of all the 'giants' this is a company that has the most volume, quality, and relevant information on all of us. They need to be held accountable & scrutinized to the highest degree in the handling of said data. The fact that they are the company most active in their business relations & engagements with the intel sector should be ringing alarm bells.