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>You didn't really buy 1 Gbit of unlimited-use bandwidth. Which is why they should be legally forbidden from advertising that they are slling 1 Gbit of unlimit

>You didn't really buy 1 Gbit of unlimited-use bandwidth. Which is why they should be legally forbidden from advertising that they are slling 1 Gbit of unlimited-use bandwidth. How hard is that? Don't advertise what you're not selling. When you say "unlimited use 1GB synchronous connection" and that's not what you're selling? That's illegal. It's called false advertising. Sure no one gets nailed for it any more, but that doesn't make it right. Advertise that you are actually selling a "restricted 1GBit synchronous connection with limits on what ports you may listen on, limits on upstream use, limits on what applications you may use on the network", etc.

jmillikin 13y ago
Where is Google advertising Fiber as being unlimited? I am unable to find any such claim on their website.
otakucode 13y ago
to jmillikin: Their precise words are "no data caps"
- jmillikin 13y ago
  That is not the same as "unlimited". Many ISPs offer "up to XX Mb/s" with no caps. In the event of unsustainably high use by some customer, that customer might have their maximum speed lowered to ensure the network quality of other customers. It's impossible to provide unlimited data anyway, because the maximum amount of data per month is bounded by (length of month * permitted data rate)
  - Dylan16807 13y ago
    Obviously unlimited means 'by them', not 'by the laws of physics'.
baddox 13y ago
> Which is why they should be legally forbidden from advertising that they are slling 1 Gbit of unlimited-use bandwidth. They're not advertising that. The closest thing they say on their web page is "no data caps," which doesn't imply that you can use the connection to run any service you please. Besides, I'm willing to bet that they have more detailed terms of service that must be agreed upon before receiving service.
- mikeash 13y ago
  While obviously intended to only be meaningless marketing speech, I'd say that the "endless possibilities" on their main page ought to imply that you can, in fact, run any service you please. We know they don't mean that, and they know we know they don't mean that, but I don't think we should let companies get away with lies like that just because everybody's used to the lying.
  - praxulus 13y ago
    Actually, if you want to interpret "endless possibilities" literally, that still doesn't indicate you can use it however you wish. Sets can be infinite in size without containing everything there is.
    - Amadou 13y ago
      "Endless" literally means without an end. Servers are a very explicit end.
      - danellis 13y ago
        Imagine the integers were all the things you could do with the service. Imagine that those odd ones involved hosting a server, while the even ones didn't. The set of even numbers is limitless, even though it excludes all the odd numbers.
        Amadou 13y ago

jmillikin 13y ago

Where is Google advertising Fiber as being unlimited? I am unable to find any such claim on their website.

otakucode 13y ago

to jmillikin: Their precise words are "no data caps"

jmillikin 13y ago
That is not the same as "unlimited". Many ISPs offer "up to XX Mb/s" with no caps. In the event of unsustainably high use by some customer, that customer might have their maximum speed lowered to ensure the network quality of other customers. It's impossible to provide unlimited data anyway, because the maximum amount of data per month is bounded by (length of month * permitted data rate)
- Dylan16807 13y ago
  Obviously unlimited means 'by them', not 'by the laws of physics'.

baddox 13y ago

> Which is why they should be legally forbidden from advertising that they are slling 1 Gbit of unlimited-use bandwidth. They're not advertising that. The closest thing they say on their web page is "no data caps," which doesn't imply that you can use the connection to run any service you please. Besides, I'm willing to bet that they have more detailed terms of service that must be agreed upon before receiving service.

mikeash 13y ago
While obviously intended to only be meaningless marketing speech, I'd say that the "endless possibilities" on their main page ought to imply that you can, in fact, run any service you please. We know they don't mean that, and they know we know they don't mean that, but I don't think we should let companies get away with lies like that just because everybody's used to the lying.
- praxulus 13y ago
  Actually, if you want to interpret "endless possibilities" literally, that still doesn't indicate you can use it however you wish. Sets can be infinite in size without containing everything there is.
  - Amadou 13y ago
    "Endless" literally means without an end. Servers are a very explicit end.
    - danellis 13y ago
      Imagine the integers were all the things you could do with the service. Imagine that those odd ones involved hosting a server, while the even ones didn't. The set of even numbers is limitless, even though it excludes all the odd numbers.
      - Amadou 13y ago