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Please spare us the "Obamacare" paranoia. I agree that once data is available it will be abused. But Obamacare one of the main problem? Dude, take off the tinf

Please spare us the "Obamacare" paranoia. I agree that once data is available it will be abused. But Obamacare one of the main problem? Dude, take off the tinfoil hat.

joshfraser 13y ago
While the dragnet collection continues, everything can and will be called into question.
FellowTraveler 13y ago
Just a reminder that the IRS will be enforcing Obamacare, and it's already in the news that the IRS was secretly using NSA data. It would be the height of naiveté to believe the information wouldn't end up being abused. It's already being abused. Also, maybe you aren't in the USA so FYI, the IRS is currently in a scandal for abuse of authority, especially related to "tinfoil hat" organizations. (Those crazies apparently being, people who do not trust the IRS to handle their health care.)
- manicbovine 13y ago
  Enforcing Obamacare with NSA data? What are you on about?
- linuxhansl 13y ago
  Almost all civilized countries have public healthcare and they managed just fine without (ab)using data from intelligence services. Even in the US we already have Medicare and Medicate for large parts of the population and have seen no indication of any involvement of NSA/CIA/FBI. The idea is absurd.
logn 13y ago
While I think Obamacare is an improvement and offers no additional risk to our privacy (it's long gone), healthcare is tightly coupled to all of this surveillance for terrorism/drugs/crime/health/thinking that isn't talked about enough. It's the next frontier of intel probably, especially as we put more and more electronics/drugs inside our bodies in the future. Also, if you had to choose one place to tap communications, doctors' offices would be a likely step. Lawyers too. Internet and political office are already completed, so doctors, lawyers, schools, businesses are next, if not already covered entirely by our current surveillance. I'd assume this is textbook tyranny.

Please spare us the "Obamacare" paranoia. I agree that once data is available it will be abused. But Obamacare one of the main problem? Dude, take off the tinfoil hat.

joshfraser 13y ago

While the dragnet collection continues, everything can and will be called into question.

FellowTraveler 13y ago

Just a reminder that the IRS will be enforcing Obamacare, and it's already in the news that the IRS was secretly using NSA data. It would be the height of naiveté to believe the information wouldn't end up being abused. It's already being abused. Also, maybe you aren't in the USA so FYI, the IRS is currently in a scandal for abuse of authority, especially related to "tinfoil hat" organizations. (Those crazies apparently being, people who do not trust the IRS to handle their health care.)

manicbovine 13y ago
Enforcing Obamacare with NSA data? What are you on about?
linuxhansl 13y ago
Almost all civilized countries have public healthcare and they managed just fine without (ab)using data from intelligence services. Even in the US we already have Medicare and Medicate for large parts of the population and have seen no indication of any involvement of NSA/CIA/FBI. The idea is absurd.

logn 13y ago

While I think Obamacare is an improvement and offers no additional risk to our privacy (it's long gone), healthcare is tightly coupled to all of this surveillance for terrorism/drugs/crime/health/thinking that isn't talked about enough. It's the next frontier of intel probably, especially as we put more and more electronics/drugs inside our bodies in the future. Also, if you had to choose one place to tap communications, doctors' offices would be a likely step. Lawyers too. Internet and political office are already completed, so doctors, lawyers, schools, businesses are next, if not already covered entirely by our current surveillance. I'd assume this is textbook tyranny.