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New Computer Programming Language Imitates The Human Brain

10 points by amerika_blog 13y ago

wwweston 13y ago
> But the human brain, which most certainly must be a kind of computer Must? It's one thing to observe that the brain appears to do computation, and to have as a working hypothesis that everything the brain does is a form of computation. It's something else to say that it must be true, when, for the moment, the brain also appears to do things that we have no idea how to make computers do, that we have significant difficulty getting computers to even pretend to do.
- dchichkov 13y ago
  On which sources are you basing your statements? What else could it be, if not a kind of associative/predictive/computation+memory system? And as to the IBM effort, I think they are doing the right thing. Whatever brings us close to having the hardware that can do the job (needs to be at least on the same scale as the human brain, that features around a petasynaps of connectivity/memory)...
  - wwweston 13y ago
    > What else could it be It doesn't matter what else it could be. Either there's convincing evidence/argument that we can get computers to do everything the brain apparently does, or there isn't. Right now, we're in the later state.
    - dchichkov 13y ago
      I dunno. But after I've seen a neuro network dreaming about hand-written digits, I couldn't think about the brain as of something other than a large neuro-network any more. It is still beautiful and magical to me, but it is magic without magic. The video that I've mentioned is still available here: http://www.cs.toronto.edu/~hinton/digits.html http://www.cs.toronto.edu/~hinton/digits.html
      - seanmcdirmid 13y ago
        If you read the paper * , the IBM programming language's model really isn't far from that. Even the article indicates that you are basically building a modular neuro-network. * Find the link somewhere at http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/4797 http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/4797
- sebkomianos 13y ago
  How they put "most certainly" and "must" in the same sentence is very cool. Probably the author is "a little pregnant"?
aa0 13y ago
Seems somewhat like hype. FPGAs and ASICs are the only fast enough solutions for direct parallel nets of inputs and outputs at the current moment. There is no way a processor is going to perform as well, especially if running instructions from a memory chip.

10 points by amerika_blog 13y ago

> But the human brain, which most certainly must be a kind of computer Must? It's one thing to observe that the brain appears to do computation, and to have as a working hypothesis that everything the brain does is a form of computation. It's something else to say that it must be true, when, for the moment, the brain also appears to do things that we have no idea how to make computers do, that we have significant difficulty getting computers to even pretend to do.

dchichkov 13y ago
On which sources are you basing your statements? What else could it be, if not a kind of associative/predictive/computation+memory system? And as to the IBM effort, I think they are doing the right thing. Whatever brings us close to having the hardware that can do the job (needs to be at least on the same scale as the human brain, that features around a petasynaps of connectivity/memory)...
- wwweston 13y ago
  > What else could it be It doesn't matter what else it could be. Either there's convincing evidence/argument that we can get computers to do everything the brain apparently does, or there isn't. Right now, we're in the later state.
  - dchichkov 13y ago
    I dunno. But after I've seen a neuro network dreaming about hand-written digits, I couldn't think about the brain as of something other than a large neuro-network any more. It is still beautiful and magical to me, but it is magic without magic. The video that I've mentioned is still available here: http://www.cs.toronto.edu/~hinton/digits.html http://www.cs.toronto.edu/~hinton/digits.html
    - seanmcdirmid 13y ago
      If you read the paper * , the IBM programming language's model really isn't far from that. Even the article indicates that you are basically building a modular neuro-network. * Find the link somewhere at http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/4797 http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/4797
sebkomianos 13y ago
How they put "most certainly" and "must" in the same sentence is very cool. Probably the author is "a little pregnant"?

aa0 13y ago

Seems somewhat like hype. FPGAs and ASICs are the only fast enough solutions for direct parallel nets of inputs and outputs at the current moment. There is no way a processor is going to perform as well, especially if running instructions from a memory chip.