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Blink tag removed from Firefox
- drewying 13y agoFare well old <blink> friend. My high school memories of webrings would not be the same without you.
- chiph 13y agoWhat's neocities.org going to use now?
- deleted 13y ago[deleted]
- darrelld 13y agoI wonder what abused tags today we will have a moment of silence for 10 years from now?
- krapp 13y ago<table>...</table>
- thejosh 13y agoHow else would you display data?
- krapp 13y agoYou're right, everything else I can think of is worse for data, tables are pretty good for that (minus the weird vertical centering thing that sometimes happens in cells.) But seeing tables being used for layout annoys me far more than the blink tag.
- jallmann 13y ago> But seeing tables being used for layout annoys me far more than the blink tag. How come? CSS positioning is pretty unintuitive, and sometimes it's just easier to get something working with tables. If the end results look fine, what's the problem? Table-based layouts aren't in-your-face like the blink tag was. Oh, and don't view-source on HN ;)
- testhacker 13y ago(views source) as a <table> user, I feel vindicated :P
- krapp 13y agoMy problems are mostly how easy it is to get lost if you're dealing with nested tables within tables (especially inside templates), and that they have to be completely read before rendering... although that may no longer necessarily be an issue with modern browsers. I find divs and spans easier myself but I guess, yeah, at the end of the day if it looks fine and it loads fine then it's fine. Too much pain from hand-coding too many tables has made me twitchy and curmudgeonly. Oh, and don't view-source on HN ;) Oh, i'm aware... It's just too bad html doesn't provide elements that handle nested lists. If only. Ah well.
- dyml 13y ago
- Natsu 13y agoThis one might be a bit more important.... "Enable JavaScript" preference checkbox has been removed and user-set values will be reset to the default
- Kequc 13y agoThe people that disable javascript either do it by accident and then stop using the browser or are nerdy enough to figure out how to turn off javascript in the configs. Javascript will also be configurable using plugins.
- Natsu 13y agoYeah, they're trying to remove the settings that people set to goof up their browsers from the look of this. There's this one, too: "Load images automatically" and Always show the tab bar" checkboxes removed from preferences and reset to defaults
- panhandlr 13y agoLet this day go down in history as the day we declared our independence from the tyrannical Mozilla organization and their corporate-interest driven and oppressive removal of our freedoms and ability to customize our browser. We shall not be stricken down by their restrictive and non-representational releases of firefox... instead we choose to be empowered by the option to disable things such as javascript, and tabbed browsing because we understand these options to be self-evident truths for all browser users. I am tired of having my freedoms stripped from my browser without any representation into the process. As a user of the browser I was not adequately informed of the upcoming changes nor was I given an opportunity to choose not to upgrade. THIS MUST END Contact me for further information, the revolution begins today.
- InclinedPlane 13y agoAre you being serious or is this supposed to be a joke?
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- mcav 13y agoAll snark aside, I wonder what the rationale was for doing this. It'd be a shame to load a website in a browser 20 years from now, only to see the site render incorrectly due to no-longer-implemented tags. Next, <center>? It's tough, obviously, because we can't have cruft build up all over. But this seems like a fairly straightforward case that a browser could shim out in JavaScript by default. Blink is a pretty straightforward piece of internet history. It's not like <applet>, which, while also a piece of history, actually carries legitimate complexity/security risks.
- mcpherrinm 13y agoGecko was, afaik, the last major browser engine that supported <blink>. Chrome and IE don't, at least. Opera won't, after switching to, ironically enough, the engine called Blink. So it's not exactly the same as removing <center>: Other browsers already didn't support it.
- jacobr 13y agoOddly enough Chrome/Blink still has the String.prototype.blink method to create a blink tag from a string. If I recall correctly it's actually part of an ES (not DOM) standard.
- Bockit 13y agoWow. Because this surprised me so much, I just found out that if you open up a node REPL and type 'hello'.blink() you get '<blink>Hello</blink>' returned. So I guess it's an ES thing and it boggles my mind. I was trying to find the ES standard where it's specified but I'll settle for this[1] instead. Interestingly enough you have quite a few HTML wrapping functions as part of the spec. [1]: http://javascript.spec.whatwg.org/#string.prototype.blink http://javascript.spec.whatwg.org/#string.prototype.blink
- Achshar 13y agoWhat could possibly be the use of that.
- pamelafox 13y agoAww, man. I love using <blink> (in FF) and <marquee> (in Chrome) when giving presentations, they're such crowd pleasers. At least Chrome still has <marquee>, I used it in a talk just 2 days ago. Hope they don't follow FF's lead.
- derefr 13y agoBoth of these effects can be recreated quite easily using CSS3 animations, by the way.
- lukifer 13y agoPlug: I wrote a JS lib that can be used to create a CSS3 <marquee> (please use sparingly): http://lukifer.github.com/HoverForMore.js http://lukifer.github.com/HoverForMore.js
- chris_wot 13y agoAre you trying to drive your audience to distraction?
- skeletonjelly 13y agoMarquee caused a whole bunch of CSS errors in a website I delivered. Client found out you could run code via onscroll, and the CMS I used (DNN) didn't filter it out. Ugh!
- ncarroll 13y ago
- kristopher 13y agoQuite fitting that the <blink> tag originated with the Netscape browser[1] and now is removed in its descendant Firefox. The idea was first discussed at a bar in Mountain View, CA. [1] http://www.montulli.org/theoriginofthe%3Cblink%3Etag http://www.montulli.org/theoriginofthe%3Cblink%3Etag
- adamnemecek 13y agoThanks god for the upcoming support of custom html tags.
- markrages 13y ago| Their tags shall blink until the end of days. from The Book of Mozilla, 12:10
- adregan 13y agoWhat a fitting farewell. If you check the source, the item is wrapped in the old blink tag. `<blink>Dropped blink effect from text-decoration: blink; and completely removed <blink> element </blink>` Start up firefox and give it a nice sendoff.
- yawniek 13y agohow about organizing a campaign to hire some protesters in front of mozillas office to bring it back? ( http://www.vice.com/read/its-now-possible-to-hire-fake-protesters?utm_source=vicefbus http://www.vice.com/read/its-now-possible-to-hire-fake-prote... )
- sirwitti 13y agoDamn, I seriously thought about posting this :)
- mattwritescode 13y agoWell, geocities will never look the same again.
- mcpoulet 13y agoI love the fact that in the release notes page, they used a <blink> tag around the message "Dropped blink effect from text-decoration: blink; and completely removed <blink> element".
- morkbot 13y agoAlso worth noting: "New feature in toolbox: Network Monitor". The lack of it was the last thing that was keeping me using Firebug.
- lrem 13y agoDon't worry, we still have the Web 2.1 version: http://cheese.blartwendo.com/web21-demo.html http://cheese.blartwendo.com/web21-demo.html ;)
- cranklin 13y agoMozilla didn't want to be responsible for causing seizures
- smrtinsert 13y agoIt was as if millions of geocities sites suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.
- Luyt 13y agoI found BLINK and MARQUEE so infuriating irritant that I used to binary patch them out in the browser executable. This was before the era of signed executables.
- floor_ 13y agoRIP