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I am vegan and have been for about a year and a half. Animal products are not necessary for a healthy diet. That goes for adults and infants. http://www.vegano

I am vegan and have been for about a year and a half. Animal products are not necessary for a healthy diet. That goes for adults and infants. http://www.veganoutreach.org/enewsletter/20070523.html http://www.veganoutreach.org/enewsletter/20070523.html Crown Shakur did die because he parents didn't supply him with adequate nutrition, but there's no reason he couldn't have gotten what he needed on a vegan diet. Plenty of children are raised on a 100% vegan diet and thrive just like children fed with animal products.

cgh 13y ago
There's a reason why there are practically no vegan power athletes. I was vegan for nearly ten years and I regret it immensely as I now see how badly it set me back. That said, you're right, with a properly-designed diet you can be healthy and happy. I don't believe you can ever be athletically optimal, however (aside from perhaps pure cardio sports).
- arsenerei 13y ago
  Mac Danzig seems to counter your argument that's it isn't possible. http://www.ufc.com/fighter/Mac-Danzig http://www.ufc.com/fighter/Mac-Danzig http://www.mikemahler.com/online-library/articles/mma-training/ufc-fighter-mac-danzig-vegan-diet.html http://www.mikemahler.com/online-library/articles/mma-traini...
  - cgh 13y ago
    Not really. First, mma isn't a power sport. Second, notice the protein supplementation. Clearly the diet alone isn't cutting it.
    - steveklabnik 13y ago
      Aren't supplements part of your diet? Maybe this is a domain term that operates differently. Many people who aren't vegan that I know take a daily multivitamin, does this demonstrate that their diet alone isn't cutting it either?
- hni 13y ago
  Strongest German, vegan: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrik_Baboumian http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrik_Baboumian
  - asdfdsa1234 13y ago
    He became vegan in 2011, after setting records.
- dllthomas 13y ago
  I expect the primary reason there are practically no vegan power athletes is that there are few power athletes and few vegans.
wnevets 13y ago
Can you link to a study or two that at-least suggest that infants can be raised vegan?
- axblount 13y ago
  http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/2009_ADA_position_paper.pdf http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/2009_ADA_position_paper.pdf "It is the position of the American Di- etetic Association that appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. Well-planned vegetarian di- ets are appropriate for individuals during all stages of the life cycle, in- cluding pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence, and for athletes." Also, http://www.journals.elsevierhealth.com/periodicals/yjada/article/S0002-8223%2801%2900169-9/abstract http://www.journals.elsevierhealth.com/periodicals/yjada/art... Just breastfeed! Breast milk is the ideal infant food after all. Crown Shakra was fed just apple juice and soymilk.
  - wnevets 13y ago
    that nytimes link showed that vegan breast milk isn't adequate
    - axblount 13y ago
      The second sentence of the article is "His vegan parents, who fed him mainly soy milk and apple juice, were convicted in Atlanta recently of murder, involuntary manslaughter and cruelty."
      - wnevets 13y ago
        right but the article goes on to say: "Yet even a breast-fed baby is at risk. Studies show that vegan breast milk lacks enough docosahexaenoic acid, or DHA, the omega-3 fat found in fatty fish. It is difficult to overstate the importance of DHA, vital as it is for eye and brain development."
pbhjpbhj 13y ago
>Plenty of children are raised on a 100% vegan diet and thrive just like children fed with animal products. // Citation? The only children I know [that I can recall] that are brought up in vegetarianism are noticeably "weedy". Shorter than average, low muscle tone, paler skin than their peers. That's completely anecdotal and a very small sample but it informs my demand to see your support for this claim. Now it's probably quite possible to create a vegan diet with all required nutrients a child needs; but how practical is that and does it happen.

cgh 13y ago

There's a reason why there are practically no vegan power athletes. I was vegan for nearly ten years and I regret it immensely as I now see how badly it set me back. That said, you're right, with a properly-designed diet you can be healthy and happy. I don't believe you can ever be athletically optimal, however (aside from perhaps pure cardio sports).

arsenerei 13y ago
Mac Danzig seems to counter your argument that's it isn't possible. http://www.ufc.com/fighter/Mac-Danzig http://www.ufc.com/fighter/Mac-Danzig http://www.mikemahler.com/online-library/articles/mma-training/ufc-fighter-mac-danzig-vegan-diet.html http://www.mikemahler.com/online-library/articles/mma-traini...
- cgh 13y ago
  Not really. First, mma isn't a power sport. Second, notice the protein supplementation. Clearly the diet alone isn't cutting it.
  - steveklabnik 13y ago
    Aren't supplements part of your diet? Maybe this is a domain term that operates differently. Many people who aren't vegan that I know take a daily multivitamin, does this demonstrate that their diet alone isn't cutting it either?
hni 13y ago
Strongest German, vegan: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrik_Baboumian http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrik_Baboumian
- asdfdsa1234 13y ago
  He became vegan in 2011, after setting records.
dllthomas 13y ago
I expect the primary reason there are practically no vegan power athletes is that there are few power athletes and few vegans.

wnevets 13y ago

Can you link to a study or two that at-least suggest that infants can be raised vegan?

axblount 13y ago
http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/2009_ADA_position_paper.pdf http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/2009_ADA_position_paper.pdf "It is the position of the American Di- etetic Association that appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. Well-planned vegetarian di- ets are appropriate for individuals during all stages of the life cycle, in- cluding pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence, and for athletes." Also, http://www.journals.elsevierhealth.com/periodicals/yjada/article/S0002-8223%2801%2900169-9/abstract http://www.journals.elsevierhealth.com/periodicals/yjada/art... Just breastfeed! Breast milk is the ideal infant food after all. Crown Shakra was fed just apple juice and soymilk.
- wnevets 13y ago
  that nytimes link showed that vegan breast milk isn't adequate
  - axblount 13y ago
    The second sentence of the article is "His vegan parents, who fed him mainly soy milk and apple juice, were convicted in Atlanta recently of murder, involuntary manslaughter and cruelty."
    - wnevets 13y ago
      right but the article goes on to say: "Yet even a breast-fed baby is at risk. Studies show that vegan breast milk lacks enough docosahexaenoic acid, or DHA, the omega-3 fat found in fatty fish. It is difficult to overstate the importance of DHA, vital as it is for eye and brain development."

pbhjpbhj 13y ago

>Plenty of children are raised on a 100% vegan diet and thrive just like children fed with animal products. // Citation? The only children I know [that I can recall] that are brought up in vegetarianism are noticeably "weedy". Shorter than average, low muscle tone, paler skin than their peers. That's completely anecdotal and a very small sample but it informs my demand to see your support for this claim. Now it's probably quite possible to create a vegan diet with all required nutrients a child needs; but how practical is that and does it happen.