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What is with The Guardian and their NSFW article pictures on the sidebar?

colin_jack 13y ago
Yeah that's started to irritate me too.
jnbiche 13y ago
Are you complaining about the breastfeeding picture? In which country are you that this is not safe for your place of employment?
- tesmar2 13y ago
  A ton of places, I'm sure, would consider pictures of half or near naked women not appropriate for the workplace.
- ToastyMallows 13y ago
  I usually consider any nudity in a picture NSFW. Not sure why this is strange. Living in the US. Downvoters: Rebutal?
  - kmfrk 13y ago
    Breastfeeding is unfortunately still a very contentious issue for a lot of people. Facebook in particular are very embattled by people who - rightly - believe breastfeeding is something that should be regarded as completely normal and appropriate in any context. Some countries are better at dealing with this than others, but I don't think Europeans are perfect on the matter either.
    - ToastyMallows 13y ago
      I'll agree with that, usually the pictures are a little more discrete though, but I guess the larger issue is, should they have be more discrete? I think it all depends on context.
      - fnordfnordfnord 13y ago
        The irrational fear of breasts is silly enough on its own, but I find it offensive when people take pains to bother babies and mothers with their weird sense of morality. >should they have be more discrete? Like how? Do you want mothers to retreat to a disgusting public restroom to feed baby?
        scott_karana 13y ago
        > Like how? Do you want mothers to retreat to a disgusting public restroom to feed baby? Most mothers that I've seen publically breastfeeding have a light cloth that they drape over themselves. Portable, cheap, and effective.
        fnordfnordfnord 13y ago
        >Most mothers that I've seen publically breastfeeding have a light cloth that they drape over themselves. Portable, cheap, and effective. Do you want that to be law? It's what my wife usually did with our children. Our friends' child though, refused to feed under a cloth and would cry or thrash until the cloth was removed.
        scott_karana 13y ago
        Oh no, I wasn't weighing in to the argument in that respect! I was merely pointing out that "going to a disgusting bathroom" is far from the only concealment option.
        ToastyMallows 13y ago
        Not at all, I was merely commenting on the state of the argument I've heard the most, i.e. - "Breast feeding is natural, why should this be censored at all"
- a3n 13y ago
  It is NSFW at many or most employers in the US, for prudish or legal reasons or both. This is not a comment on breastfeeding, it's an acknowledgement of the environment.
fnordfnordfnord 13y ago
The breastfeeding mother and baby? That's not NSFW. Some of us are just too prudish in the US.
- ToastyMallows 13y ago
  Yesterday on The Guardian I saw in the sidebar a man & woman on a bed, woman topless with just enough hair to cover her chest. I would consider this NSFW. What do you consider as NSFW?
  - fnordfnordfnord 13y ago
    I didn't see the photo, was it something like this [1]? If so, then I do see why some might think it is NSFW but, IMO that is a juvenile, silly, absurd, mindset, and even a bit insulting. The only part of an image such as that which is NSFW is that it is IMO not suitable to spend time gawking at it while at work; but it is only slightly less suitable than wasting time on most any of the other news articles. >What do you consider as NSFW In general, the mere presence of an image, even a fully nude one isn't NSFW until some person's reaction to it negatively affects themselves or their co-workers, and even then, it isn't really the image that is to blame. But still, gross and or gratuitous pornography are out [2], as are most images of penises, vaginas, and anuses. [1] http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2295906/Lara-Stone-turns-hand-topless-waitressing--serves-wine-cheeky-chest-exposing-photoshoot.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2295906/Lara-St... [2] Unless you are a pornographer, of course.
    - ToastyMallows 13y ago
      > even a fully nude one isn't NSFW until some person's reaction to it negatively affects themselves or their co-workers, and even then, it isn't really the image that is to blame. I can understand this notion, but I feel that there is more to consider. I take NSFW to mean "would you read this at work". That is something I wouldn't think of opening at work, just to avoid things that MAY happen. For example: - My computer isn't in an office, anyone can look and see what I'm doing when walking past. Someone to my boss, "I saw X looking at Y on his computer, I was offended" (in fact I didn't even open your link so that this or something similar doesn't occur) Why even risk this sort of situation? I think this is at the very heart of the phrase "NSFW". I'm on a news website, I don't want this to negatively affect me in any way, it's a "safe for work" site. Back to the breastfeeding image. I will agree that on the whole, a good chunk of people would say that this is a safe for work picture. But because of workplace culture at certain businesses, I feel that this is on the boarder at best.

Yeah that's started to irritate me too.

Are you complaining about the breastfeeding picture? In which country are you that this is not safe for your place of employment?

tesmar2 13y ago
A ton of places, I'm sure, would consider pictures of half or near naked women not appropriate for the workplace.
ToastyMallows 13y ago
I usually consider any nudity in a picture NSFW. Not sure why this is strange. Living in the US. Downvoters: Rebutal?
- kmfrk 13y ago
  Breastfeeding is unfortunately still a very contentious issue for a lot of people. Facebook in particular are very embattled by people who - rightly - believe breastfeeding is something that should be regarded as completely normal and appropriate in any context. Some countries are better at dealing with this than others, but I don't think Europeans are perfect on the matter either.
  - ToastyMallows 13y ago
    I'll agree with that, usually the pictures are a little more discrete though, but I guess the larger issue is, should they have be more discrete? I think it all depends on context.
    - fnordfnordfnord 13y ago
      The irrational fear of breasts is silly enough on its own, but I find it offensive when people take pains to bother babies and mothers with their weird sense of morality. >should they have be more discrete? Like how? Do you want mothers to retreat to a disgusting public restroom to feed baby?
      - scott_karana 13y ago
        > Like how? Do you want mothers to retreat to a disgusting public restroom to feed baby? Most mothers that I've seen publically breastfeeding have a light cloth that they drape over themselves. Portable, cheap, and effective.
        fnordfnordfnord 13y ago
        >Most mothers that I've seen publically breastfeeding have a light cloth that they drape over themselves. Portable, cheap, and effective. Do you want that to be law? It's what my wife usually did with our children. Our friends' child though, refused to feed under a cloth and would cry or thrash until the cloth was removed.
        scott_karana 13y ago
        Oh no, I wasn't weighing in to the argument in that respect! I was merely pointing out that "going to a disgusting bathroom" is far from the only concealment option.
      - ToastyMallows 13y ago
        Not at all, I was merely commenting on the state of the argument I've heard the most, i.e. - "Breast feeding is natural, why should this be censored at all"
a3n 13y ago
It is NSFW at many or most employers in the US, for prudish or legal reasons or both. This is not a comment on breastfeeding, it's an acknowledgement of the environment.

fnordfnordfnord 13y ago

The breastfeeding mother and baby? That's not NSFW. Some of us are just too prudish in the US.

ToastyMallows 13y ago
Yesterday on The Guardian I saw in the sidebar a man & woman on a bed, woman topless with just enough hair to cover her chest. I would consider this NSFW. What do you consider as NSFW?
- fnordfnordfnord 13y ago
  I didn't see the photo, was it something like this [1]? If so, then I do see why some might think it is NSFW but, IMO that is a juvenile, silly, absurd, mindset, and even a bit insulting. The only part of an image such as that which is NSFW is that it is IMO not suitable to spend time gawking at it while at work; but it is only slightly less suitable than wasting time on most any of the other news articles. >What do you consider as NSFW In general, the mere presence of an image, even a fully nude one isn't NSFW until some person's reaction to it negatively affects themselves or their co-workers, and even then, it isn't really the image that is to blame. But still, gross and or gratuitous pornography are out [2], as are most images of penises, vaginas, and anuses. [1] http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2295906/Lara-Stone-turns-hand-topless-waitressing--serves-wine-cheeky-chest-exposing-photoshoot.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2295906/Lara-St... [2] Unless you are a pornographer, of course.
  - ToastyMallows 13y ago
    > even a fully nude one isn't NSFW until some person's reaction to it negatively affects themselves or their co-workers, and even then, it isn't really the image that is to blame. I can understand this notion, but I feel that there is more to consider. I take NSFW to mean "would you read this at work". That is something I wouldn't think of opening at work, just to avoid things that MAY happen. For example: - My computer isn't in an office, anyone can look and see what I'm doing when walking past. Someone to my boss, "I saw X looking at Y on his computer, I was offended" (in fact I didn't even open your link so that this or something similar doesn't occur) Why even risk this sort of situation? I think this is at the very heart of the phrase "NSFW". I'm on a news website, I don't want this to negatively affect me in any way, it's a "safe for work" site. Back to the breastfeeding image. I will agree that on the whole, a good chunk of people would say that this is a safe for work picture. But because of workplace culture at certain businesses, I feel that this is on the boarder at best.