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If you were able to break into Valve because they failed to secure some login, and as a result got access to their Source Engine. Would $500 be enough to silenc
by film42 13y ago
If you were able to break into Valve because they failed to secure some login, and as a result got access to their Source Engine. Would $500 be enough to silence you?
- eli 13y agoYes. Of course. You would insist on more than $500? To stop you from hurting a company by releasing things you obtained unlawfully? Isn't that unethical? Illegal? I would -- in fact I have! -- reported serious security vulnerabilities with no expectation of financial reward.
- jerf 13y agoWorse than that, you have probably (as I have) reported plainly-obvious security vulnerabilities with at least a faint twitch of nervousness that the recipient is going to flip out and start suing or something. Worse than no expectation of reward from a utility point of view!
- X4 13y agoIf you use someone's non-protected wifi for illegal activities, like downloading porn, then the owner of that "hotsport" is responsible at court. (At least in Germany afaik) This is no different and I'm sure that you could win at court with a good lawyer
- Dylan16807 13y agoIn the US when you provide wifi to people you are just as protected as your ISP. You might be in violation of your ToS but that's an unrelated issue. What metric does Germany use to distinguish between 'ISP' and 'not ISP' when it comes to providing internet service?
- arkades 13y agoThe problem the previous poster was descrbibing wasn ot when you act as an ISP, but when someone manages to log into your wifi (either because it's unprotected or unintentionally vulnerable), and performs criminal activity. The US legal system has reliably shown itself willing to pursue the owner of an IP address, without going to the trouble of showing the owner was in fact the one using the IP for that purpose.
- Dylan16807 13y agoSomeone using your wifi means you are Providing Internet Service to them. Is the problem that you're not incorporated? If it's based on IP allocation, what if your home connection has 8 IPs and you give one to each user?
- X4 13y agoIf your WiFi get's hacked because it had too low security standards, like WEP, then you're still responsible for what's being done with your line. But you're irresponsible if you have taken care of security by following the router's wizard. There is no such case, that the manufacturer was blamed to offer too low security until now though (afaik).
- drivebyacct2 13y agoBy that logic I should walk out of work tomorrow with as much of the Windows source I have or can get access to quickly and quit my job and ransom Microsoft for the money? I have stumbled onto servers and data that I shouldn't have before. In each case I've reported it (Though I've begun reporting anonymously) and would not have accepted a reward in return unless they had an established bounty program.
- rangibaby 13y agoHow about a "job offer"? http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-02-21-the-boy-who-stole-half-life-2-article http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-02-21-the-boy-who-sto...