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I contacted BitTorrent and told them EXACTLY what I did , what information I had access to and what user/passes needed updating, including SSH keys and more. Wh

I contacted BitTorrent and told them EXACTLY what I did , what information I had access to and what user/passes needed updating, including SSH keys and more. Whilst I gave a small generalization of what was at hand on the thread, there was a considerable amount of data available to me. - MentaL (RZ Thread Starter).

hack_edu 13y ago
Now you just sound entitled AND righteously indignant...
biot 13y ago
Scenario 1: You find a boy who is lost and take him to the police station. The family gives you $500 in reward. Scenario 2: You find twin boys who are lost and take them to the police station. The family gives you $500 in reward. Would the fact that you get the same reward regardless of the number of people lead you to act differently in the future? So if next week you found lost twins again, would you let them stay lost or try to sell them on the black market because you know you'll only get $500 when you think it should be $1000? Or is doing the right thing its own reward regardless of whatever amount you get in recognition for acting honorably?
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- Dylan16807 13y ago
  Scenario 3: Same as scenario 1, but a month earlier a different person saw a "missing boy, reward" sign for the same child and searched them out. They received $30000 from the family. Wouldn't you find that unfair? Or was the post misleading and the other bounty was a different company, in which case I take it back.
  - alanctgardner2 13y ago
    Seriously? In this case it's more like there was a reward for their son, and this guy found their missing dog. Either way, you would complain about not getting a reward for finding a missing child? Full stop. Prior information doesn't matter, what was the alternative? If you had known there was no reward, would you have acted differently?
    - Dylan16807 13y ago
      I would complain if a reward was offered and I didn't get one. I don't think that makes me a bad person. I'd save the child either way.
- eli 13y ago
  Who wouldn't help a lost boy for free ?!
  - angersock 13y ago
    Many otherwise sweet young women (or men!) several of us probably went to school with, for a start. :| Edit: Was trying to give some help to somebody puzzled about this, which is why I bring it up. Turns out that, if you're a lost young man, there's probably a point in your travels where you zigged instead of zagging and thus lost your way.
    - bigiain 13y ago
      In the "lost child" scenario, it seems to me there's some ranking like: 1) helping out 'cause it's the right thing to do. 2) helping out with some hope there'll be a reward. 3) not helping out, 'cause there's probably nothing in it for you. 4) helping out with an expectation of a reward. 5) helping out with an expectation of reward then complaining publicly 'cause it's "not enough" … VERY_LARGE_INT) Abducting the child. While there's a long way between 1-5 and the biottom of that list - there's no doubt in my mind that 1 & 2 speak significantly better of the "helper" than 3, 4, & 5. (and interestingly, there's no "outside" difference between 1 and 2 or 4, unless you choose to admit your mercenary inclinations to onlookers.) Things are a bit murkier in the guy in the article's case, since "bug bounties" are known about and perhaps "expected", and I think Bit Torrent handled this badly, but further down the thread he admits "This was all 100% accidental, truth! At the end of the day If I wanted to 'hack' BitTorrent I wouldn't even know where to begin. I mean, there is no real skill or talent involved in what I did to find the information on BitTorrent." That makes it hard for me to feel sympathy for him failing to get a windfall "bug bounty".
- zem 13y ago
  bringing up lost kids is misleading because people care about other people in a manner that they do not care about faceless companies.
perryh2 13y ago
They offered $500 as a nice and thankful gesture. If you wanted money, take it and don't cry about not getting more. You're not entitled to more money nor do you deserve more.
knodi 13y ago
You should have just released it all. j/k... not really.

hack_edu 13y ago

Now you just sound entitled AND righteously indignant...

biot 13y ago

Scenario 1: You find a boy who is lost and take him to the police station. The family gives you $500 in reward. Scenario 2: You find twin boys who are lost and take them to the police station. The family gives you $500 in reward. Would the fact that you get the same reward regardless of the number of people lead you to act differently in the future? So if next week you found lost twins again, would you let them stay lost or try to sell them on the black market because you know you'll only get $500 when you think it should be $1000? Or is doing the right thing its own reward regardless of whatever amount you get in recognition for acting honorably?

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Dylan16807 13y ago
Scenario 3: Same as scenario 1, but a month earlier a different person saw a "missing boy, reward" sign for the same child and searched them out. They received $30000 from the family. Wouldn't you find that unfair? Or was the post misleading and the other bounty was a different company, in which case I take it back.
- alanctgardner2 13y ago
  Seriously? In this case it's more like there was a reward for their son, and this guy found their missing dog. Either way, you would complain about not getting a reward for finding a missing child? Full stop. Prior information doesn't matter, what was the alternative? If you had known there was no reward, would you have acted differently?
  - Dylan16807 13y ago
    I would complain if a reward was offered and I didn't get one. I don't think that makes me a bad person. I'd save the child either way.
eli 13y ago
Who wouldn't help a lost boy for free ?!
- angersock 13y ago
  Many otherwise sweet young women (or men!) several of us probably went to school with, for a start. :| Edit: Was trying to give some help to somebody puzzled about this, which is why I bring it up. Turns out that, if you're a lost young man, there's probably a point in your travels where you zigged instead of zagging and thus lost your way.
  - bigiain 13y ago
    In the "lost child" scenario, it seems to me there's some ranking like: 1) helping out 'cause it's the right thing to do. 2) helping out with some hope there'll be a reward. 3) not helping out, 'cause there's probably nothing in it for you. 4) helping out with an expectation of a reward. 5) helping out with an expectation of reward then complaining publicly 'cause it's "not enough" … VERY_LARGE_INT) Abducting the child. While there's a long way between 1-5 and the biottom of that list - there's no doubt in my mind that 1 & 2 speak significantly better of the "helper" than 3, 4, & 5. (and interestingly, there's no "outside" difference between 1 and 2 or 4, unless you choose to admit your mercenary inclinations to onlookers.) Things are a bit murkier in the guy in the article's case, since "bug bounties" are known about and perhaps "expected", and I think Bit Torrent handled this badly, but further down the thread he admits "This was all 100% accidental, truth! At the end of the day If I wanted to 'hack' BitTorrent I wouldn't even know where to begin. I mean, there is no real skill or talent involved in what I did to find the information on BitTorrent." That makes it hard for me to feel sympathy for him failing to get a windfall "bug bounty".
zem 13y ago
bringing up lost kids is misleading because people care about other people in a manner that they do not care about faceless companies.

perryh2 13y ago

They offered $500 as a nice and thankful gesture. If you wanted money, take it and don't cry about not getting more. You're not entitled to more money nor do you deserve more.

knodi 13y ago

You should have just released it all. j/k... not really.