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Uh, the iPad Mini's screen is 1024-by-768/163 PPI. The first-gen N7's is 1280x800/216 ppi. The N7's screen is noticeably nicer. I can't speak to battery or spe

by cheald 13y ago

Uh, the iPad Mini's screen is 1024-by-768/163 PPI. The first-gen N7's is 1280x800/216 ppi. The N7's screen is noticeably nicer. I can't speak to battery or speed as I haven't had a lot of hands-on time with the Mini, but I will note that the N7's slimmer aspect ratio means it fits nicely in a pocket, while the iPad Mini just plain doesn't.

scott_karana 13y ago
Screen "niceness" constitutes far more factors than just DPI. It could be contrast ratio, colour gamut, brightness, subpixel quality, viewing angles, reflectivity of coating, susceptibility to oils/fingerprints... (I haven't used either, I'm just saying)
- oscilloscope 13y ago
  I've used both. I prefer the Mini's screen to the old N7: larger viewing angles, better color saturation/accuracy, less backlight bleed, smaller bezel. The iPad Mini Retina will likely be the perfect small tablet for most users.
  - NicoJuicy 13y ago
    And what's the price difference? :P
    - wldlyinaccurate 13y ago
      Yeah, this is the thing I could never get my head around. I know that the iPad mini is superior in many ways, but I just can't see how people can justify spending the extra money! The iPad mini is £110 - £190 more expensive, depending on which size you get. That's just too much IMHO.
      - NicoJuicy 13y ago
        iOS is user-friendlier in the start, that's true. Android indeed has a "bigger" learning curve which make people more efficient in a short time for doing things with their phone/tablet. Easy example, Tasker, Gravity screen, NFC and Autovoice...
  - rustynails77 13y ago
    I just can't look past the poor resolution of the iPad mini - and on that basis alone, I would not recommend it to anyone, except people with very poor eyesight. I agree that DPI isn't everything. I think of it as like "stock" to a soup. Without stock (or with awful stock), you have no soup. The rest of the ingredients are important, but stock is king. iPad mini has foul tasting "stock" ;) Brightness is important, but not fundamental, viewing angles are less important when you're looking straight on or from a slight angle (ie. 99% of the time). I didn't notice a huge difference on contrast ratio (eg. differentiating dark colours readily). I would not recommend the current iPad mini to anyone with reasonable eyesight.
    - snogglethorpe 13y ago
      > viewing angles are less important when you're looking straight on or from a slight angle (ie. 99% of the time). I find that with the ipad mini viewing angles actually do seem kind of important, because—unlike a phone—I very often use the ipad mini without holding it, whether sitting on a table, on my lap, or propped up against something while I watch a video. The result is that one doesn't have nearly the same easy control over viewing angle one has when hand-holding a device...
EpicEng 13y ago
That's like saying that all 8MP sensors are better than all 5MP sensors just because they stuff more pixels on the sensor. Of course, that's not true.
esolyt 13y ago
Resolution is not the only criteria to judge a display. Color accuracy, calibration, contrast, gamma, viewing angles are also important. I have both devices and I can comfortably say Nexus 7's display is much worse. Images appear washed out, it's not as bright as the iPad mini, it has worse viewing angles etc.
prewett 13y ago
The original Nexus 7 is known to have extremely poor color calibration.[1][2] Both the Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 look terrible to me, everything is very blue-looking. I took a look at a Kindle Fire HD and a Nexus 7 at a store and the difference is immediately obvious. I can't stand seeing pixels, so the iPad Mini is not an option, but I'm also not willing to spend money on a tablet with lousy color. Hopefully Google gets it right this time. [1] http://www.displaymate.com/news.html#8 http://www.displaymate.com/news.html#8 [2] http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57479059-94/expert-claims-googles-nexus-7-display-has-flaws/ http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57479059-94/expert-claims-g...

by cheald 13y ago

scott_karana 13y ago

Screen "niceness" constitutes far more factors than just DPI. It could be contrast ratio, colour gamut, brightness, subpixel quality, viewing angles, reflectivity of coating, susceptibility to oils/fingerprints... (I haven't used either, I'm just saying)

oscilloscope 13y ago
I've used both. I prefer the Mini's screen to the old N7: larger viewing angles, better color saturation/accuracy, less backlight bleed, smaller bezel. The iPad Mini Retina will likely be the perfect small tablet for most users.
- NicoJuicy 13y ago
  And what's the price difference? :P
  - wldlyinaccurate 13y ago
    Yeah, this is the thing I could never get my head around. I know that the iPad mini is superior in many ways, but I just can't see how people can justify spending the extra money! The iPad mini is £110 - £190 more expensive, depending on which size you get. That's just too much IMHO.
    - NicoJuicy 13y ago
      iOS is user-friendlier in the start, that's true. Android indeed has a "bigger" learning curve which make people more efficient in a short time for doing things with their phone/tablet. Easy example, Tasker, Gravity screen, NFC and Autovoice...
- rustynails77 13y ago
  I just can't look past the poor resolution of the iPad mini - and on that basis alone, I would not recommend it to anyone, except people with very poor eyesight. I agree that DPI isn't everything. I think of it as like "stock" to a soup. Without stock (or with awful stock), you have no soup. The rest of the ingredients are important, but stock is king. iPad mini has foul tasting "stock" ;) Brightness is important, but not fundamental, viewing angles are less important when you're looking straight on or from a slight angle (ie. 99% of the time). I didn't notice a huge difference on contrast ratio (eg. differentiating dark colours readily). I would not recommend the current iPad mini to anyone with reasonable eyesight.
  - snogglethorpe 13y ago
    > viewing angles are less important when you're looking straight on or from a slight angle (ie. 99% of the time). I find that with the ipad mini viewing angles actually do seem kind of important, because—unlike a phone—I very often use the ipad mini without holding it, whether sitting on a table, on my lap, or propped up against something while I watch a video. The result is that one doesn't have nearly the same easy control over viewing angle one has when hand-holding a device...

EpicEng 13y ago

That's like saying that all 8MP sensors are better than all 5MP sensors just because they stuff more pixels on the sensor. Of course, that's not true.

esolyt 13y ago

Resolution is not the only criteria to judge a display. Color accuracy, calibration, contrast, gamma, viewing angles are also important. I have both devices and I can comfortably say Nexus 7's display is much worse. Images appear washed out, it's not as bright as the iPad mini, it has worse viewing angles etc.

prewett 13y ago

The original Nexus 7 is known to have extremely poor color calibration.[1][2] Both the Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 look terrible to me, everything is very blue-looking. I took a look at a Kindle Fire HD and a Nexus 7 at a store and the difference is immediately obvious. I can't stand seeing pixels, so the iPad Mini is not an option, but I'm also not willing to spend money on a tablet with lousy color. Hopefully Google gets it right this time. [1] http://www.displaymate.com/news.html#8 http://www.displaymate.com/news.html#8 [2] http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57479059-94/expert-claims-googles-nexus-7-display-has-flaws/ http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57479059-94/expert-claims-g...