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Email used to be fun, then spammers came, then good email providers added spam filters and made email fun again, now email providers are sending us spam. The ci

by dendory 13y ago

Email used to be fun, then spammers came, then good email providers added spam filters and made email fun again, now email providers are sending us spam. The circle is almost complete.

agilebyte 13y ago
I, on the other hand, am happy. It is the same thing as the NSA working as my email backup provider. Changes like these give growth to new/alternative businesses.
- rabino 13y ago
  >Changes like these give growth to new/alternative businesses. I totally dig this perspective. From now on, my opinion is that Google makes this changes to promote entrepreneurship. Love it.
- buro9 13y ago
  > NSA working as my email backup provider Backups are only useful if you are able to restore from them.
  - agilebyte 13y ago
    You know you just gave me an idea. The government asks you to store data with them so they do not have to go behind your back to get it and in exchange you get a backup with them that you can restore from.
    - pseut 13y ago
      To be honest, I've thought of Google for the last few years as what the NSA would become if it were were privatized and publicly listed. PRISMail might even be ad free! edit: clarity
  - officemonkey 13y ago
    FOIA!
fauigerzigerk 13y ago
As long as Gmail's spam filter catches Google's own spam as well everything is fine ;-)
- jaredmcateer 13y ago
  I've trained Gmail to put my G+ Instant Upload Share notification into the spam box. It has a link on the email to manage subscriptions, I turned off every god damn email option in G+ yet I still get "You have X photos to share". I maybe shared 1% of the photos I take, like picasa before it I use G+ as a cloud back up of my photos.
  - ChrisClark 13y ago
    You must have missed the right checkbox. I turned it off once, never got another email.
Furzel 13y ago
Really looking forward to see fun spam closing the loop
weland 13y ago
> now email providers are sending us spam Mine isn't. Get used to it: if you aren't paying for the service, you're not their client and they are not your provider. You're their product. It's not pretty, but sadly this is how life tends to work :-).
- rfnslyr 13y ago
  What do you use? Better yet, what's an alternative to Google Apps I can use for my domain?
  - josteink 13y ago
    Fastmail[1] is looking very nice, very fast and makes Google look like a bloated pig. The prices too are similar to Google apps, but I'm not sure I'm going to move all my stuff there (Google Docs at least needs a competitor). I've yet to decide if I'm going full scale when I'm through my free trial. [1] http://fastmail.fm/ http://fastmail.fm/
    - freehunter 13y ago
      I looked at Fastmail recently, but then I saw the Opera logo and hesitated. I want to know what would happen to them if Opera cannot maintain profitability. I'd like to know my mail provider is going to stick around a while.
      - minikites 13y ago
        Fastmail has been around since 1999, I think it's going to be okay.
        jasonlotito 13y ago
        Sorry, this is really not a coherent comment. I rambled. It's a fair question though. Despite the "If you don't pay for it…" mantra that people like to spout off, situations like Sparrow and other paid services shutting down tend to worry me. And I know, it's odd, considering Gmail is free and Google as a tendency to shut things down (but I don't see them shutting down Gmail). I guess the issue is that if I pay for it, I'm investing time and money into something I want to know will stick around. And because I'm a customer, I feel like I'm empowered to believe that. After all, if a company is charging me X amount, I think that charge should be related to keeping themselves in business. I hate the idea of a company that charges not being able to stay afloat because of their low prices. It's not even giving me a choice as a customer to pay more to ensure their service remains.
glesica 13y ago
I suggest Fastmail. I switched a few months back and haven't missed GMail yet. YMMV, but you owe it to yourself to give it a look.

by dendory 13y ago

Email used to be fun, then spammers came, then good email providers added spam filters and made email fun again, now email providers are sending us spam. The circle is almost complete.

agilebyte 13y ago

I, on the other hand, am happy. It is the same thing as the NSA working as my email backup provider. Changes like these give growth to new/alternative businesses.

rabino 13y ago
>Changes like these give growth to new/alternative businesses. I totally dig this perspective. From now on, my opinion is that Google makes this changes to promote entrepreneurship. Love it.
buro9 13y ago
> NSA working as my email backup provider Backups are only useful if you are able to restore from them.
- agilebyte 13y ago
  You know you just gave me an idea. The government asks you to store data with them so they do not have to go behind your back to get it and in exchange you get a backup with them that you can restore from.
  - pseut 13y ago
    To be honest, I've thought of Google for the last few years as what the NSA would become if it were were privatized and publicly listed. PRISMail might even be ad free! edit: clarity
- officemonkey 13y ago
  FOIA!

fauigerzigerk 13y ago

As long as Gmail's spam filter catches Google's own spam as well everything is fine ;-)

jaredmcateer 13y ago
I've trained Gmail to put my G+ Instant Upload Share notification into the spam box. It has a link on the email to manage subscriptions, I turned off every god damn email option in G+ yet I still get "You have X photos to share". I maybe shared 1% of the photos I take, like picasa before it I use G+ as a cloud back up of my photos.
- ChrisClark 13y ago
  You must have missed the right checkbox. I turned it off once, never got another email.

Furzel 13y ago

Really looking forward to see fun spam closing the loop

weland 13y ago

> now email providers are sending us spam Mine isn't. Get used to it: if you aren't paying for the service, you're not their client and they are not your provider. You're their product. It's not pretty, but sadly this is how life tends to work :-).

rfnslyr 13y ago
What do you use? Better yet, what's an alternative to Google Apps I can use for my domain?
- josteink 13y ago
  Fastmail[1] is looking very nice, very fast and makes Google look like a bloated pig. The prices too are similar to Google apps, but I'm not sure I'm going to move all my stuff there (Google Docs at least needs a competitor). I've yet to decide if I'm going full scale when I'm through my free trial. [1] http://fastmail.fm/ http://fastmail.fm/
  - freehunter 13y ago
    I looked at Fastmail recently, but then I saw the Opera logo and hesitated. I want to know what would happen to them if Opera cannot maintain profitability. I'd like to know my mail provider is going to stick around a while.
    - minikites 13y ago
      Fastmail has been around since 1999, I think it's going to be okay.
      - jasonlotito 13y ago
        Sorry, this is really not a coherent comment. I rambled. It's a fair question though. Despite the "If you don't pay for it…" mantra that people like to spout off, situations like Sparrow and other paid services shutting down tend to worry me. And I know, it's odd, considering Gmail is free and Google as a tendency to shut things down (but I don't see them shutting down Gmail). I guess the issue is that if I pay for it, I'm investing time and money into something I want to know will stick around. And because I'm a customer, I feel like I'm empowered to believe that. After all, if a company is charging me X amount, I think that charge should be related to keeping themselves in business. I hate the idea of a company that charges not being able to stay afloat because of their low prices. It's not even giving me a choice as a customer to pay more to ensure their service remains.

glesica 13y ago

I suggest Fastmail. I switched a few months back and haven't missed GMail yet. YMMV, but you owe it to yourself to give it a look.