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Ask HN: How do you apply for a tech job?
I am interested in learning what are the best practices when it comes to applying for a job. The goal is for this post to serve as a collection of ideas that members of this community (including me) can use. If possible break down your answer into the high level steps that cover your entire process - from search to acceptance or rejecting of a offer. Thanks for participating.
EDIT: Also indicate how you find jobs/listing in the first place. Would like to hear form people who have a big network and people who don't. This will help people who don't have networks tremendously.
- esusatyo 13y ago- Be honest about your experience, and tell them what you are really comfortable with. If you got 3 months experience in Objective-C, don't say 1 year, and tell them what parts/concepts of Objective-C you have used. Don't get too hung up if your skills aren't what they're looking for. Good employers know that someone with a strong technical background can learn anything given enough time. - If they are giving you a puzzle, try your best to solve it. Do not be too worried if you can't solve it. Most of them will give you hints. I have been offered jobs when I couldn't solve their puzzles. - If they're asking about opinionated questions (OSX/Linux/Windows, Git/Hg, Java/C, iOS/Android, etc), they are probably just testing your reasoning. It doesn't matter what you answer as long as you have your reasoning. Telling them you use Hg because your boss told you so is not good. It's always good to have a good lookout on new technologies. - Go to meetups and talk to people. You will probably find a lot of jobs there. Be open, tell them you are looking for a job. - Wear a t shirt and jeans. Drink lots of water and maybe a cup of coffee.
- Achshar 13y agoI do almost all of that stuff (except going to meetups because...) but location matters the most. I live in a small town in India, and I would like to work, but we don't have the kind of job I would like to do here. No one writes good software, there is no startup culture. People here need someone to maintain old java code or write some mundane portfolio website. I need a startup or a proper tech company with products, market, that has exciting cool stuff to work on, I would be more of an intern, but location is I believe the most important factor. I even got a couple of emails back but they declined because they were not supporting visas. But's that's alright, I am not too keen on leaving the country either.
- ra77le 13y agoAshok, is that you?
- Achshar 13y agoI am not actually. I guess there are many people in situation like me. haha
- agilebyte 13y agoEither it makes sense to have the kind of company you speak of in your area or it doesn't. If it does, start one and you have found yourself a nice niche.
- dear_srik 13y agojoin thoughtworks. you will find what you need!
- nkorth 13y ago"wear a t shirt and jeans" I was always told "dress one level above the job you're applying for". Is that different in the tech world or the startup world?
- NateDad 13y agoI think he meant in general, not at the interview (though more senior people can get away with it in the interview too).
- Monk_NT 13y agoI don't know, I think it's different if you are applying for a job in a big corporation or for a smaller firm/startup. Bigger firms will usually have a more strict dress code (the place where I currently work short pants are frowned upon, except in case of system integrators) In both cases I usually go for jeans/shirt combo (but not a t-shirt, bigger firms/older people find it unprofessional in my experience), but that's just me.
- rejschaap 13y agoWhen people say "dress one level above the job you're applying for", I can't help to imagine what the levels are. I came up with something like this, from high to low: - 3 piece suit - 2 piece suit with tie - 2 piece suit, no tie - suit pants and dress shirt - khaki's and dress shirt - jeans and dress shirt - jeans and t-shirt - shorts and t-shirt - stained shorts and wife beater shirt I always wonder where the bow tie fits in though, or are they just always inappropriate?
- electronvolt 13y agoBow ties are generally considered formal evening wear, not business attire, much like tuxedos. I'd also actually put the 2 piece suit with tie over a 3 piece suit (with or without tie) in terms of formality/business-attire-ness: 3 piece suits are also not traditional business wear, while 2 piece suit+tie is the IBM/'50s iconic business look, and what you'd see most CEOs/etc. wearing.
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- Pitarou 13y agoInteresting. Is that why most engineers are guys?
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- Achshar 13y agoThis is interesting, we usually don't have such comments here. What happened?
- niyazpk 13y agoSomebody got nothing better to do..?
- kul_ 13y agoseems like so.
- neuromancer2701 13y agoI am unsure how to clarify, but I will try. I have been an embedded C developer for the past 7 years. And have gotten some interviews with Amazon, Qualcomm and other companies and the lack of C++ experience seems to be a big deal. I am full confident that I can learn it. It is just a matter of exposure.
- toddhd 13y ago- On your resume, don't list what you did, list what you accomplished. For example, wrong = "Wrote new SQL and bug-fixed existing SQL on web application". Right = "Reduced a long running SQL call from 8 hours to 20 minutes" - Also try to avoid "fuzzy" statements on your resume. Make your accomplishments quantifiable. Wrong = "Rewrote a VB program so that it was a lot faster". Right = "Rewrote a VB program, reducing average run time from 60 minutes to 15 minutes" - Be prepared to defend any statement on your resume. If you made that program faster, be prepared to explain how and why - Apply for some jobs you don't really want before you apply for the ones you DO want. This is because interviewing is an art, and it really helps to "get in the mode" first. If you going to bomb the first few interviews, make them ones you don't care about so much. - Turn off your cell phone. Better yet, leave it in the car. - Have a personality. Hiring is still mostly about who "fits" the job. If they like you, half the battle is over. At the same time, don't be "chummy" with the interviewer. If you act like you two are best friends and should go out for a beer together, it feels kiss-assy and rarely if ever bodes well for you. - Prepare to answer common questions. Why do want to work here? Why should we hire you? What are you most proud of? What is your weakness? What was a time you had a conflict at work? Almost everyone asks these, and and sucks to answer with some dumb example. - Always try to rephrase the question asked to you before answering it. e.g. "Tell us about your SQL experience" - you reply, "So you want to know what kind of SQL projects I've worked on?" This makes sure you understand what was asked, and it also gives you a moment to think. - If you don't know, say you don't know - Have examples of your work. Code snippets are great, screenshots of UI's you've worked on, etc. When I bomb their pop-quiz (and I always bomb their pop-quiz, I suck at testing) it really helps to tell them that you can show them code from your daily job that better represents you on a daily basis. - Never talk badly about other jobs, even if they were awful. Try to have a reason for switching jobs (e.g. They were a great place to work, but there was really no chance for job advancement) as opposed to "That was a soul sucking job and they can kiss my ass" - Understand that most people performing tech interviews have ZERO training in doing so. If they aren't asking you questions that put you in your best light, then help them out, and offer up that information.
- jinushaun 13y agoI agree on the advice on applying for jobs you don't want first. If you're like a lot of people, you're nervous during interviews and practice makes perfect. Maybe you'll encounter questions you didn't expect or have a great answer for. Maybe you find out that people really do quiz you on all the textbook CS stuff you learned in college and subsequently forgot. If you get a job offer out of it, that will build confidence for when you apply for the job you want.
- majke 13y agoFor me finding interesting companies is the hardest part. IMO you can rank companies in two dimensions: 1) companies that I'm enthusiastic about and would love to work for 2) companies that will employ me. The trick is to find companies that are in both categories. But the groups are fluid. You can gain more experience and therefore extend 2), or you can learn more about a company and therefore add it to 1). Or you can reduce expectations and have every single workplace in group 1). When I look for a job I usually focus on individuals. Read an interesting blog post? I research on the author. Nice node.js library? Learn who wrote it. Amazing project? Who pays for its development and why. This is a lifetime project, but yes, do follow individuals you admire. If possible don't apply to jobs@..., instead send an email to a real human being. If a company has a blog, find an interesting author and contact him directly. You'll usually be told to send CV to jobs@ anyway, but it's always better (IMO) to have a friendly human-being advocate in your case. Research github projects done by the company or employees. Try to contribute, it will not only give you an experience and a good topic for a discussion, but also can also show reveal communication patterns in the company. Before going for an interview, try learning as much as possible about the company. From all sides: how many data centres, what AS'es, who is listed in whois entries, who is the biggest competitor, who are the investors, who are the customers, and so on. For me there are four groups of things worth researching: individuals, communication patterns and politics, technology stack, business (ie: money).
- Monk_NT 13y ago- Don't lie on any part of your resume. If you have any open source projects on e.g. github, put the link to your profile on your resume (that helped me a lot). - Say don't know if you don't know something, that is a legitimate answer - If you get a programming assignment in your interviewing process, don't overengineer. For example, if assignment asks of you to take some data out from a webpage, don't use regexes, use a html parsing library instead. - Remember that interview is also a conversation. - If you decide to reject an offer, don't reject it impolitely, who knows, maybe in few years they will call you again, with a better offer.
- Stranger2013 13y ago- if you have any closed source projects on e.g. BitBucket mention this on your resume;
- rejschaap 13y agoMaybe you accidently switched regexes and html parsing around. But using a regular expression to retrieve data from a webpage is not an example of over-engineering. It would be a good example of a quick-and-dirty solution. If someone used them it will probably result in a discussion about the limitations of the approach.
- cliveowen 13y agoI see really interesting and articulated responses here, so I'm wondering if anyone has tips on how to apply to jobs when you have 0 experience, like when you're straight out of college. I know most of you might be thinking "you have to build a portfolio/repository on github WHILE you're studying and then build from that" but often that's not an option. Maybe I'm particularly stupid but I don't have really time to do anything beyond studying for my courses. So I'm wondering, if you're just out of college and you don't have anything to show, plus you don't have much experience in terms of programming 'cause you just did 2-3 projects during your years as a student, what's the best course?
- ambiate 13y agoFirst option: Drive downtown and write down every business you see. I would imagine 99% of them need technology, 75% of them have some form of technology, and 50% of them are using legacy software. Call them. Something is running at O(n^5) and they need your help. Second option: Connections. Find that person that knows someone. Use your alumni network. Third option: If you're fresh out of college, expand out of city or state. Watching students stagnate in their hometowns is a shame. Persistence pays off regardless of the field. 'Hi, I'm wondering if you have any computer related jobs available? No? Do you happen to know anyone applying?' Build a network out of people you're only talking to for 5 minutes!
- brnstz 13y agoTry working for your college. The IT department probably has work study jobs, which will give some "real world" experience but not intrude into your studies too much.
- hackula1 13y agoInternships are definitely your best bet. Once you get to a year of experience, the rest is gravy.
- NateDad 13y agoIf you're looking for a job with specific qualities (uses X language, is in Y market, etc) then you need to expand your (people) network in those areas. Join as many groups related to those things as you can. Join meetups, mailing lists, G+ groups, find IRC channels, etc. The original poster was right to talk about networks, but it's not just about who you have worked with before, it's anyone you have interacted with on a sustained basis, and those groups are often just as good as working with people, sometimes better, because generally anyone can join those groups. Also, they're great learning resources. It's in these groups that jobs are often posted before they're posted publicly. And if you've been an active and quality participant in the group, your response to the posting will be looked on favorably. You'll have a foot in the door without even trying. That being said, make sure you are always polite when talking on these groups, as it reflects badly on you if you are condescending, argumentative, or otherwise unpleasant. When writing up your resume/CV, be 100% honest. Never fudge the truth. Most employers realize that not everyone can know everything. Briefly list the major technologies used at each job, and list a few prominent accomplishments (e.g. "rewrote client-server sync framework, decreasing server load by a factor of 10"). Keep your resume to one page if you have less than 5 years experience, 2 pages for anything over 5. Don't bother with anything other than company name & technologies used for jobs more than 10 years ago. Don't over clutter your resume with skills. Pick your top few. If you start having to write stuff like "XML" as a skill, you know you've gone too far. It's ok if you just have a couple... everyone has to start somewhere. Never be afraid to say "I don't know" in an interview. If you don't know, say so. No one expects you to know everything, and it's far more valuable for an employer to know that you'll be up front about what you don't know, than to think you'll try to bullshit your way through any question. I guarantee you, they'll know when you're doing it. Try to work through whatever problems you're given, whether they're brainteasers or coding problems or what "would you do if" questions. Always always talk out loud when doing these problems. It lets the interviewer understand your thinking behind what you're writing. That way, even if you're wrong, the interviewer may see your misunderstanding and help correct it. Most of the time, they're not looking for the right answer, they're looking to see how you work through a problem. If you're doing coding problems on a whiteboard, always use the language you are most familiar with. It's hard enough coding on a white board without also trying to use some language you've only used in passing. Also, always walk through your code after it's been written to make sure it does what you expect. The interviewer will like that you're double checking your work, and it'll help catch and dumb errors. Think of it as running the code through a compiler and/or tests. Ask intelligent questions about the problem before you address it... what assumptions are you making? Is it only ASCII or is Unicode accepted? Are we talking 32 bit ints or 64? Does this need to be thread safe? Questions like this, before even writing a single character on the board will show that you are a thoughtful coder that doesn't just blast out the first code that comes into your head. Finally... dress nicely. You probably don't need a suit. If you're junior, I'd go with slacks, a button down shirt, and a tie. If you're mid level (7+ years), drop the tie. If you're senior (15+ years)... just make sure you dressed in clean clothing :) Always offer to shake hands when you meet someone and when they leave. Look them in the eye and say "Thank you". Be nice. Smile freely.
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- rzendacott 13y agoI have a somewhat related question: How do you best present yourself at a career fair? I did pretty well last year by being friendly and trying to show my passion for programming. This year, I'll be attending the Reflections | Projections Conference [0], and the companies I'll hopefully be talking to are on a completely different tier. What's the best way to make a lasting, memorable impression, especially if my school isn't particularly impressive? Do I mention my prior internships or side projects? Something else? Thanks for any advice! [0] http://www.acm.uiuc.edu/conference/2013/ http://www.acm.uiuc.edu/conference/2013/
- fecak 13y agoLuckily for you, the career fairs you go to in college should be your last. Once you have a job and some marketable skills, you don't want to be hanging around career fairs. To differentiate yourself, definitely mention side projects and internships. Be sure those are on your resume - relevant links to websites, a GitHub account, or whatever else you can do to show your code. Feature them prominently on your resume, along with an internship. Keep it one page. Also, make sure to be as personable as you can at a career fair. Chances are the people you will meet might not be engineers, but more HR and recruiting types that are basically salespeople (recruiter here) who tend to be smooth talkers. You'll want to make sure you provide firm handshakes and eye contact to avoid some of the engineering stereotypes. Good luck
- walshemj 13y agowell the recent security themed fair that was held in Victoria was for those interested in security and not just recent grads. PS the geekiest attendee was one of the young guys on the GCHQ stand :-)
- fecak 13y agoThere are exceptions. Here in the US, most career fairs consist primarily of larger and older companies with booths, and the attendees tend to be people who have been unemployed or unhappy for extended periods of time. If you find yourself going to career fairs a lot, it probably means you should start making better career decisions to stay marketable.
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- fecak 13y agoThis question can lead to quite a long list of answers. I've posted several of my blog posts about job search here on HN over the past couple years (http://jobtipsforgeeks.com http://jobtipsforgeeks.com), and I write extensively about job search and career tips specifically for programmers and tech pros. I've been recruiting engineers for mostly startup and small software firms for 15 years, and I've run a Java User Group since 2000. During my career I've worked with thousands of job seekers and hundreds of companies, so I've managed countless job searches for engineers. I recently released an ebook 'Job Tips For GEEKS: The Job Search', which is a step-by-step guide to most of the things you are asking about. It starts with the decision to start a job search, what strategies to consider and pros/cons of each (recruiters, posting resumes, emailing to online posts, and more random approaches, etc.) , implementing those strategies, how to protect yourself from recruiters, resume structure section by section, interview tips for phone and face-to-face, keeping metrics during the search (to track success/failure), talking about money, negotiations, balancing multiple job offers, refusing offers, accepting offers, counteroffers (including what recruiters are trained to tell you), and how to keep bridges intact after the job search. It covers everything during the process in about 150 pages. I made a quick one page with links to buy and a link to a free section - http://jobtipsforgeeksbook.com http://jobtipsforgeeksbook.com.
- kephra 13y agoThe classical browse job offers, send resume, get an invitation to an interview, get the job does not work anymore. Optimizing for the best cover letter, great resume, or tricky interview questions is a cargo cult. The only reason to optimize here, is if you want to become a priest of this cargo cult, e.g. a recruiter, vocational guidance or other professions who exploit the unemployed. I assume that "tech job" means something in IT tech like coder, designer, admin, and not something like an engineer or chemist. I got all my projects over the last 35 years by listening to others peoples problems. Real programmers are cursed by infinite ideas vs. limited time. So ideas get a negative value. Just pick those ideas where the company has a great culture, and that sound challenging to you. So the positive work environment must balance the negative value of the idea. Ask yourself: The is company work environment good for solving the problem, or a hindrance. Do !NOT! talk to HR, but to the people who have the problem. I always talked to HR last, at the moment after signing the contract when they want my tax numbers and the like. One indicator, that might not work in other cultures (outside Germany), is: You got the job, if they take the time to show you the recreation facilities like coffee kitchen, smokers garden, after the interview.
- AustinGibbons 13y agoIf you wish to target post-round startups, it can be a little bit easier to contact a vc firm's talent team (such as: http://a16z.com/talent-services/ http://a16z.com/talent-services/) who, if you pass whatever conversation / interview they give you, can recommend you to good fits within their portfolio.
- hackula1 13y agoHere are a few of the things I would recommend in no particular order. Most of them are pretty traditional. 1. Wear leather shoes. You could dress in rags, but if you are wearing leather shoes, it will make it look like you meant to. Scott Hanselman pointed this out on his This Developer's Life podcast a while back. 2. Show your github or linkedin profiles, but despite people saying "oh, this is my resume", no it is not. Quit being cute and spend 20 minutes typing up a real resume. Use one of the templates provided in most word processors. Your resume is not meant to stand out. It is meant to be used as a filter to see if there are any red flags. Think of it like just another piece of paperwork. Include your last 3 jobs (not 1 and definitely not 10), degrees, and a list of technologies you know. Do not include smarmy HR stuff like "Team Player! Great Work Ethic!" Make the resume custom taylored to fit the position you are applying for. Since you are not including everything you have ever done, just focus on the experience you have that is most relevant. Lastly, keep it to one page, with a normal font size. 3. Dress to the company +1. If they wear cargo shorts and t shirts, wear shorts with a polo. If they wear jeans and polos, wear jeans with a button down. If they wear kahkis and button downs, wear that plus a tie. If they wear suits... you probably do not want to work there so I would recommend wearing a tuxedo or nothing at all. 4. Always remember that you are interviewing them. Take charge of the interview. Ask about the culture and values. Ask the interviewer how they personally feel about X and Y aspects of the business. Ask about stability and/or revenue. If it seems appropriate (feel it out), ask where the person who's position you are filling is now and why they left. If there are red flags hiding, this is the question that will often reveal them. 6. As far as finding companies goes, pick a list of 10 you like, then email all of them. If they have a position listed, then mention the position, but if not, apply anyway and offer your services. Coders are in demand, and many companies will jump at the chance to interview an enthusiastic person who took some initiative. Pretty much ignore job requirements. They are so often unreliable, that you might as well find out in person. As long as you are fine with the stack, go for it. 7. Do not get tunnel vision. This is probably the most important thing. It is like buying a house. Do not fall in love with any one offer. You should never, under any circumstances, be applying for one job at a time. You always want multiple offers so that you can leverage them against each other. Also, if one falls through, it is no big deal. If you were going to apply for one job at a time, you are forced to go with jobs that are almost a sure thing. After all, if it does not work out, you could be out of work for another month or two. If you reach for something out of your comfort zone (something that is essential for growth), you might have a 20% shot of getting each individual job. You do not want this to be a 6 month process, so go for jobs in batches of 5. If you have a 20% chance at each, you will probably land one of them. I have seen many coders fall into the trap of feeling like they are being disloyal for following multiple leads at once. This is complete BS. Companies are interviewing as many people as they can, so do the same. You do not even work for them yet, so loyalty really should not factor in.
- lmkg 13y agoOther people are giving good comprehensive advice, so I'll just drop in 2 small points. 1. On any interview question, and especially on coding questions, don't be afraid to take some time to gather your thoughts. You will feel like you're under the microscope and you're obligated to say something. This is normal. Tamp down that feeling. A composed reply is better than a reply that came two seconds earlier. If necessary, practicing using canned phrases as a stalling technique--just saying "Excellent question! So, you see..." buys you like two not-awkward seconds. 2. In any coding exercise, spend more time talking than coding. You will have a large instinct school that your imperative is to find the correct answer. You must fight this. Your goal is to demonstrate that you can reason clearly, even if you arrive at a different answer than your interviewer. Before starting, explain your high-level approach. Be explicit about any assumptions you're making. Any time you make a decision, no matter how trivial, state that it is a decision and preferably why you did not choose alternatives. 3. There will always be a part of the interview where the interviewer asks if you have questions. Ask a question. It doesn't need to be anything special, just have a few on-hand. My favorite is to ask what the company culture is like, since that's something the interviewer usually doesn't cover.
- lumens 13y agoSeconded on number 3. Interviewers feel that you are more engaged and interested in the opportunity at hand if you're asking questions. Having a few 'set' ones, like ?culture, in your back pocket is good in case you get flummoxed on the spot, but you'll probably get a pretty generic answer from 'tell me about your company culture'. Use your question time to really probe about something important to you. If culture is it, follow a general ask with something specific: "You mentioned that you're a team that likes to 'work smart'. I think that is awesome, as I feel like it's a mindset that tends to be undervalued. Can you tell me more about how you see this play out in practice?"
- andrewaylett 13y agoForget the back pocket: get a notebook, write some questions down and have it open on the table in front of you. Keep a copy of your CV there too, for the inevitable occasion when your interviewer is looking at something that's been mangled by an agency and you want to show them what it's supposed to look like.
- dhotson 13y agoSteve Yegge made some excellent points about writing a resume: http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com.au/2007/09/ten-tips-for-slightly-less-awful-resume.html http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com.au/2007/09/ten-tips-for-slig...
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- lgilchrist 13y agoAvi Flombaum gave an excellent talk on this a few months ago. He dove into the six different types of technical interviews (cultural fit, brain teasers, whiteboard coding, cs trivia, code questions, and pairing) and how to prepare for each of them. https://speakerdeck.com/aviflombaum/mastering-the-technical-interview https://speakerdeck.com/aviflombaum/mastering-the-technical-....
- aswin8728 13y agoThe most critical thing to remember when it comes to applying for jobs is "either you have it or you don't". You can embellish your resume, contact 100 recruiters, and have the most well developed portfolio on the planet, but when it comes time to apply your knowledge, you have to deliver. I have seen plenty of IT professionals who look fantastic on paper, but cannot think creatively or deliver under pressure. Take time to understand the industry, constantly strive to learn new technologies, and be infinitely curious. I am nowhere near the skill level of anyone on HN, but people much wiser than I am have instilled a sense of curiosity in me, and that's the most valuable character trait anyone in this industry can have.
- tourbillonfunk 13y agoI'm in the "no experience" boat. I recently decided to switch jobs; jumping from sales to a aspiring programmer. I'm dedicating the next 6 months (full time) to learning Ruby/Rails and becoming comfortable with HTML/CSS/Javascript. A few things I'm doing to get prepared: 1) I'm enrolled in a online Ruby/Rails bootcamp (https://www.gotealeaf.com https://www.gotealeaf.com) it lasts for a total of 16 weeks and we're building out several projects. 2) Taking lessons at Treehouse, I'm always up for some extra practice! 3) Just started a side project that I will have completed by the end of the 6 months. 4) Attending a weekly local Ruby meet up. Additionally, I'm getting involved in other local tech events, like Startup Weekend. My plan of action is to make a trip to San Francisco (this is where I ideally want to relocate to) to speak to a few potential employers mid-way of my journey. Of course, it won't be a formal interview but I would like to let them know my plans and a get feel of their company, culture, etc. At the end of the 6 months, I will touch base with these companies and show them my progress. At that time, I will also reach out to additional companies. What do you guys think of my overall strategy? Any suggestions? In terms of my resume, what type of things should I list? Since, I won't have any "formal" experience, is completing the online Ruby/Rails bootcamp worth highlighting? How about my side project? PS: I'm a female in my mid 20's coming from a luxury sales and customer service background. Thanks in advance!
- schiang 13y agoYou should definitely focus on solid side projects. You don't have any prior experience as a developer so the only way to prove to someone that you can code is to show them.
- fecak 13y agoSince she doesn't have a job in the industry, are they still called 'side projects'? I agree with the sentiment though, that she should focus on building a portfolio of code that she can use as evidence that she knows what she is doing.
- vitd 13y agoWhatever you do, do not under any circumstances go through the company’s HR department to get a job. I work in one of the best tech companies in the industry, and our HR people frequently reject highly qualified candidates we’d like to talk to before we even see their resumes. We know this because these same people often know people on our team, or on our friends teams, and we get their resumes through back channels. We almost always hire these people instead of whoever HR sends us. As an example, about a decade ago, I saw an opening for someone with vector processing experience. I applied and highlighted my extensive experience with AltiVec processors in Macs. The recruiter actually sent me back an email asking why I had included all this irrelevant AltiVec stuff. It turned out he had no idea what vector processing was and didn’t realize I had exactly the experience he was looking for. Later, when they had an even better opening, I just emailed a guy on the team that I had met once or twice and he was very happy to pass my resume on to the hiring manager because he knew I had the experience needed from being on some mailing lists with me. I got the job and have been at it for 8 years. My boss’s boss at the time said it was one of the best hires they’d ever made.
- krschultz 13y agoIf you are in a big city, I have found that in person events are the best option. Meetups are everywhere. In New York specifically there is the New York Startup Job Fair, NY Tech Day, New York Uncubed, and a couple others. Two data points, I met my current startup at NY Tech Day. My previous startup was met via one of the NY Tech meetups.
- FigBug 13y agoI've been in the work force 12 years and had 4 jobs. My first job was my University Co-op that turned into full time employment after I graduated. When I want to change jobs I put the word out to my friends and ex-coworkers that I'm looking. Usually somebody will come up with something fairly quickly. I may or may not have to send a resume. The interview will be a formality. I've never just applied for jobs that are posted, that's what some of my friends are doing now and it seems very difficult, especially if you don't interview well. I didn't even do anything particular to build my network. I just worked at a company with fairly high turnover for 4 years, so now I have ex-coworkers at pretty much every company in town. I live in a fairly small city, 350,000 people. So it's pretty easy to get known in the tech industry without knowing that many people.
- neuromancer2701 13y agoHow does an engineer/coder address skill gaps(before and during an interview)? e.g.- C programmer but very little C++ experience
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- SubuSS 13y agoPreface: I have interviewed around 300-500 people in the last 10+ years, spread between Microsoft and Amazon. This applies for finding a job with one of the Industry titans (Amazon/FB/Google/MS/Twitter etc.) 1. Prepare well. The number of interview preparation sites are way too many to mention. 2. Get your basics straight. If you are applying to a programming job, assume you are going to be grilled on Data Structures/Algorithms/Coding/Design patterns/OS. 3. Practice coding without an IDE. 4. Tune your interview preparation to the industry you are trying to get hired into as well. For example, if you are an experienced guy and plan to interview with us (AWS DynamoDB), you would be hard pressed to get by without Database Architecture/Concurrency/Distributed programming related knowledge. This also levels up or down according to your experience. If you have 10 years in the database industry the expectations are going to be very different compared to a college hire. 4.1. An addendum: We do hire a lot of people from other disciplines provided they prove that they are smart / willing to learn / can code. I switched from the Windows C++/C# shop to a linux Java/Perl/C++ shop for example. Do make your competencies clear to the interviewer at the onset. 4.2 Remember that you could be a very successful person in a different field/company, but as an interviewer if I can't relate your skills for the role I am interviewing you for in some way – I can't hire you. This starts mattering more and more as roles become senior. 5. Know what you have been doing for the past few years. Prepare for questions probing your team skills/problem solving skills etc. 6. Know what you are talking about and what's on your resume very well - I can't stress this enough. I find so many folks who have a templated 'Skills' list like Java and are not able to answer basic fizz buzz questions. 7. Read up about the company culture and see what they actually value most. (again, way too many sites out there for this information). Amazon has a list of leadership skills that people look for. These might appear broad, but usually have direct effects on the interview process. 8. Find someone inside the company who will refer you instead of cold calling. Shameless plug: If you think you are well prepared and want a referral to AWS, contact me! We are hiring!
- q3dm17 13y agoHello guys! In brief: I am biologist on the paper, but I work basically 70% with computational biology and only 30% in the lab. Also I engineered certain php and c++ apps. Now I am looking for positions in that direction. I had some problems when they tested my skills. I often failed because I was nervous. Next week I am up to an interview again and this time they announced to test me on my php skills. I'm pretty sure that I'm not soo bad in that stuff, but last time I coded php 24/7 was almost three years ago. Since then I had to focus more on C++ and C#. I don't want to fail and just don't have enough time to repeat every single thing so have you any suggestions how to deal with that uncomfortable situation?