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This is infantile. I hope it gets him new charges if he goes through with it.

by dfranke 17y ago

nixy 17y ago
No, it's brilliant! I gladly payed $0.057.
- tvon 17y ago
  Eh, it's easily the oldest trick in the book when comes to giving someone money you don't want to give them. I might call it trite, juvenile or predictable, but 'brilliant' is not a word that enters into it.
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  - dkokelley 17y ago
    Getting other people to pay is the brilliant part.
evilneanderthal 17y ago
I agree with dfranke here. This whole issue with the RIAA is about powerful entities abusing their resources toward unethical ends. If the letter of the law is on the side of the Pirate Bay (which it is, by all accounts), then they have no reason to do something like this; and if it isn't, then they have no right.
jrockway 17y ago
Why should you be nice to a corporation that wants to take away everything you own, and prevent you from ever owning anything again in the future? (As an aside, I wonder why more terminally-ill people don't go on last-minute killing sprees.)
- visitor4rmindia 17y ago
  Evolution.
- mcantelon 17y ago
  I've often wondered the same, about suicide perpetrators. Opportunity squandered!
- lucumo 17y ago
  > Why should you be nice to a corporation that wants to take away everything you own, and prevent you from ever owning anything again in the future? Yeah, I wonder that too. Why exactly are we nice to The Pirate Bay?
run4yourlives 17y ago
Agreed. Sometimes in life, things don't go the way we want them to. The responsible way of addressing this issue would be to dedicate more time to convincing the public that your views are in fact the legitimate ones, that copyright has some serious flaws that need to be addressed, and that the law was bent out of intention to aide a corporation's interests. Instead, the Pirate Bay pretty much proves the opposite point: They're a bunch of petty crooks that are only interested in stealing and harming others. A shame, because they do have valid points and we do need to reform our copyright laws globally.
- helium 17y ago
  Yup. These underhanded tactics makes them seem less like the 'victims' of the music companies. This can diminish their cause quite a bit in the eyes of the public, not just for themselves but for anyone else that might face a similar lawsuit in future.
dfranke 17y ago
My karma appears to be undergoing a vigorous random walk.
- pj 17y ago
  It's interesting to watch it go up and down when you say something controversial. I agree with you. It's childish and reflects poorly on the BitTorrent community which is already treading water. Anyone who has produced anything of value wants to protect that thing of value. If the value of products can't be protected, then people will stop taking the big risks they need to take to produce the products. People who steal movies and music and other digital content need to give up the delusion. BitTorrent is a great system, unfortunately, leeches on society have destroyed its reputation and value to the world by using it to steal people's hard work. Just stop doing it. Do you really need 1,000 movies? Do you really need 10,000 songs? Just stop stealing stuff. There's plenty of great free content on the web.
  - noonespecial 17y ago
    Just stop doing it. Do you really need 1,000 movies? Do you really need 10,000 songs? Just stop stealing stuff. There's plenty of great free content on the web. I hear this all the time. I couldn't agree more. But if I don't need 1000 movies and 10,000 songs, and I do enjoy the great free stuff on the web, isn't the result exactly the same for the producers of said "things of value"? Would it not be better for them if I did believe that I needed their movies, "stole" 990 of them and bought 10, than if I decided (as I do more each year) that I just don't need that stuff in my life?
    - lucumo 17y ago
      It is. But if they're competing with the free stuff, the solution is to make stuff that's worth more than the free stuff. So much more that people are willing to pay the price. They may go out of business if they fail, but if they succeeed, we're all better of because of it. If, on the other hand, they're competing with their own pirated stuff, making it better will only make the problem worse. The way to solve that is to make piracy harder, more dangerous, or useless. If they succeed we may be better off (if they change their business model and the new model gives us better quality), but it seems unlikely. It's more likely that everybody will be worse off whether or not they fail or succeed.

This is infantile. I hope it gets him new charges if he goes through with it.

by dfranke 17y ago

This is infantile. I hope it gets him new charges if he goes through with it.

nixy 17y ago

No, it's brilliant! I gladly payed $0.057.

tvon 17y ago
Eh, it's easily the oldest trick in the book when comes to giving someone money you don't want to give them. I might call it trite, juvenile or predictable, but 'brilliant' is not a word that enters into it.
- deleted 17y ago
  [deleted]
- dkokelley 17y ago
  Getting other people to pay is the brilliant part.

evilneanderthal 17y ago

I agree with dfranke here. This whole issue with the RIAA is about powerful entities abusing their resources toward unethical ends. If the letter of the law is on the side of the Pirate Bay (which it is, by all accounts), then they have no reason to do something like this; and if it isn't, then they have no right.

jrockway 17y ago

Why should you be nice to a corporation that wants to take away everything you own, and prevent you from ever owning anything again in the future? (As an aside, I wonder why more terminally-ill people don't go on last-minute killing sprees.)

visitor4rmindia 17y ago
Evolution.
mcantelon 17y ago
I've often wondered the same, about suicide perpetrators. Opportunity squandered!
lucumo 17y ago
> Why should you be nice to a corporation that wants to take away everything you own, and prevent you from ever owning anything again in the future? Yeah, I wonder that too. Why exactly are we nice to The Pirate Bay?

run4yourlives 17y ago

Agreed. Sometimes in life, things don't go the way we want them to. The responsible way of addressing this issue would be to dedicate more time to convincing the public that your views are in fact the legitimate ones, that copyright has some serious flaws that need to be addressed, and that the law was bent out of intention to aide a corporation's interests. Instead, the Pirate Bay pretty much proves the opposite point: They're a bunch of petty crooks that are only interested in stealing and harming others. A shame, because they do have valid points and we do need to reform our copyright laws globally.

helium 17y ago
Yup. These underhanded tactics makes them seem less like the 'victims' of the music companies. This can diminish their cause quite a bit in the eyes of the public, not just for themselves but for anyone else that might face a similar lawsuit in future.

dfranke 17y ago

My karma appears to be undergoing a vigorous random walk.

pj 17y ago
It's interesting to watch it go up and down when you say something controversial. I agree with you. It's childish and reflects poorly on the BitTorrent community which is already treading water. Anyone who has produced anything of value wants to protect that thing of value. If the value of products can't be protected, then people will stop taking the big risks they need to take to produce the products. People who steal movies and music and other digital content need to give up the delusion. BitTorrent is a great system, unfortunately, leeches on society have destroyed its reputation and value to the world by using it to steal people's hard work. Just stop doing it. Do you really need 1,000 movies? Do you really need 10,000 songs? Just stop stealing stuff. There's plenty of great free content on the web.
- noonespecial 17y ago
  Just stop doing it. Do you really need 1,000 movies? Do you really need 10,000 songs? Just stop stealing stuff. There's plenty of great free content on the web. I hear this all the time. I couldn't agree more. But if I don't need 1000 movies and 10,000 songs, and I do enjoy the great free stuff on the web, isn't the result exactly the same for the producers of said "things of value"? Would it not be better for them if I did believe that I needed their movies, "stole" 990 of them and bought 10, than if I decided (as I do more each year) that I just don't need that stuff in my life?
  - lucumo 17y ago
    It is. But if they're competing with the free stuff, the solution is to make stuff that's worth more than the free stuff. So much more that people are willing to pay the price. They may go out of business if they fail, but if they succeeed, we're all better of because of it. If, on the other hand, they're competing with their own pirated stuff, making it better will only make the problem worse. The way to solve that is to make piracy harder, more dangerous, or useless. If they succeed we may be better off (if they change their business model and the new model gives us better quality), but it seems unlikely. It's more likely that everybody will be worse off whether or not they fail or succeed.