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The article contradicts itself... The idea may be plausible, but it comes with a big problem: it can't be tested. Mass is what’s known as a dimensional quantit
by swombat 13y ago
The article contradicts itself...
The idea may be plausible, but it comes with a big problem: it can't be tested. Mass is what’s known as a dimensional quantity, and can be measured only relative to something else. For instance, every mass on Earth is ultimately determined relative to a kilogram standard that sits in a vault on the outskirts of Paris, at the International Bureau of Weights and Measures. If the mass of everything — including the official kilogramme — has been growing proportionally over time, there could be no way to find out.
The way to measure the increase in weight is actually described in the article itself: observe a shift in absorption/emission spectra.
Of course, such a shift may be infinitesimally small and undetectable over short timespans. However, this is precisely the sort of theory (like all the neutrino theories, for example) for which you set up a very long-term experiment.
The experiment is simple: measure the absorption spectrum of hydrogen in space with an extreme level of accuracy and a bajillion measurements (that's the scientific term). Record that for posterity. In 10 years (the equivalent of observing something 10 light-years away), repeat the measurement. Keep doing this until you either observe a shift or have made a measurement that based on observations of the real world (i.e. galaxies drifting away).
The experiment might take 100, 1000 or even 10'000 years, but eventually we'd have an answer!
UPDATE: Heh. isomorphic points out that this is actually not feasible given that it's impossible to make these measurements accurately without relying on mass being constant... So much for this. retracts
- isomorphic 13y agoHow do we measure frequency (or time) precisely if the emission spectra are changing?
- swombat 13y agoWe'd need to calibrate against some kind of effect that is more heavily influenced by forces other than mass. You're right actually, that might be a lot more tricky than it seems on the surface. If we're left with the Weak and Strong forces to play with, that makes experimental design pretty difficult (and perhaps impossible). Hmm...
- ggchappell 13y agoIf the two really are indistinguishable experimentally, then might we say that the expansion of space and the changes in mass are just two different ways of describing the same phenomena?
- marcosdumay 13y agoIt's very clear that there is a difference. What is not clear is if we can observe that difference in a human timeframe (thousands of years or less).
- aufreak3 13y agoHaven't read the paper, but another problem that occurred to me - if the mass of all particles is increasing over time, over whose time is it increasing. The rate of progress of time depends on the frame of reference, right?
- lcedp 13y ago> If the mass of everything — including the official kilogramme — has been growing proportionally over time, there could be no way to find out. ?! Actually the gravity would increase. Quadraticly, cause you mass would increase and Earth's as well.