You were downvoted into invisibility because this type of discourse is not appropriate for Hacker News. Please, no shouting. No vague pronouncements to "wake up

You were downvoted into invisibility because this type of discourse is not appropriate for Hacker News. Please, no shouting. No vague pronouncements to "wake up". We try to have a reasoned, intelligent discourse here. There are many services provided by companies which may collaborate with the NSA or law enforcement which are pretty much unavoidable in modern society; the telephone network, the internet, and so on. Telling people that they need to completely disconnect from modern society or they shouldn't complain is unproductive. Rather, we should be discussing realistic solutions. Pervasive end-to-end cryptography for everyday tasks would help. Better laws and legal oversight of both the government and of corporations would help. Protocols that encourage federated or decentralized use, rather than central storage that everything passes through unencrypted would help.