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I would love to hear a medical professional opinion on contusion probability with extensive use of this thing. Also they didn't show if it's comfortable to run

by mdigi 13y ago

I would love to hear a medical professional opinion on contusion probability with extensive use of this thing. Also they didn't show if it's comfortable to run backwards - a critical move in any first person game.

sean-duffy 13y ago
While running backwards is a popular tactic in FPS games, it's one that is obviously completely unrealistic. I think given that this is a virtual reality device, it's more likely to be used for more realistic games that wouldn't require backwards running.
- snogglethorpe 13y ago
  If it's a fun and intuitive device, it seems likely it will be used for all sorts of games, even those that are completely unrealistic... [My impression is that the running backward technique is profitable largely due to limitations on user control and enemy AI, and those are probably not going to go away any time soon (even if developers might really want to make a game that feels realistic, it's, well, hard :)...]
- mdigi 13y ago
  If by realistic games You mean "Jogging In The Park Simulator 2013" then i guess it's perfect. This could be a nice device to try out on some gaming expo but i think most gamers will be disappointed with the lack of actions they can perform in it.
  - spazmaster 13y ago
    Yeah, strafing and walking backwards at least you can do. How would you crouch and go prone for example? And I wonder how good you would be able to aim with Omni, that's gonna be a deciding factor.
    - LordIllidan 13y ago
      They mention Kinect integration - that should be able to detect crouching movements.
      - freehunter 13y ago
        But would the belt allow you to crouch? It's designed to keep you from falling, so I assume it's there pretty tight.
        LordIllidan 13y ago
        Maybe a ducking motion? This isn't intended to be the Holodeck - but it's a step in the right direction. For that matter, how would you represent a jump? That said, I'd use the hell out of it for a game like Skyrim, or other open world environments. And it can be so much more than that, .e.g. ocean/space environments for instance. The gameplay is secondary - there are a lot of motions that can't be expressed well using this device (although with the kinect, you can unlock a lot of arm motions - good for sword play, I'd wager) - but it's superb for walking in fantasy environments.
        nickik 13y ago
        > For that matter, how would you represent a jump? You just jump, I think there are videos showing that. I cant jump like the hero in the game but you can do a little hop.
nknighthb 13y ago
Given sufficiently low friction, there should actually be very little force exerted on the belt. Some sort of larger harness might be an option if it does become an issue.
- mdigi 13y ago
  A diaper-like seat would be a nice addition. With that kind of support user could be waving his legs forwards, backwards and even sideways with little to no problem.
  - yaddayadda 13y ago
    Then all we'll need are astronaut diapers and, oh wait, things get weird when such diapers are involved http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/astronaut-love-triangle-attacker-lisa-nowak-wear-diaper/story?id=12932069 http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/astronaut-love-triangle-attacke...

by mdigi 13y ago

sean-duffy 13y ago

While running backwards is a popular tactic in FPS games, it's one that is obviously completely unrealistic. I think given that this is a virtual reality device, it's more likely to be used for more realistic games that wouldn't require backwards running.

snogglethorpe 13y ago
If it's a fun and intuitive device, it seems likely it will be used for all sorts of games, even those that are completely unrealistic... [My impression is that the running backward technique is profitable largely due to limitations on user control and enemy AI, and those are probably not going to go away any time soon (even if developers might really want to make a game that feels realistic, it's, well, hard :)...]
mdigi 13y ago
If by realistic games You mean "Jogging In The Park Simulator 2013" then i guess it's perfect. This could be a nice device to try out on some gaming expo but i think most gamers will be disappointed with the lack of actions they can perform in it.
- spazmaster 13y ago
  Yeah, strafing and walking backwards at least you can do. How would you crouch and go prone for example? And I wonder how good you would be able to aim with Omni, that's gonna be a deciding factor.
  - LordIllidan 13y ago
    They mention Kinect integration - that should be able to detect crouching movements.
    - freehunter 13y ago
      But would the belt allow you to crouch? It's designed to keep you from falling, so I assume it's there pretty tight.
      - LordIllidan 13y ago
        Maybe a ducking motion? This isn't intended to be the Holodeck - but it's a step in the right direction. For that matter, how would you represent a jump? That said, I'd use the hell out of it for a game like Skyrim, or other open world environments. And it can be so much more than that, .e.g. ocean/space environments for instance. The gameplay is secondary - there are a lot of motions that can't be expressed well using this device (although with the kinect, you can unlock a lot of arm motions - good for sword play, I'd wager) - but it's superb for walking in fantasy environments.
        nickik 13y ago
        > For that matter, how would you represent a jump? You just jump, I think there are videos showing that. I cant jump like the hero in the game but you can do a little hop.

nknighthb 13y ago

Given sufficiently low friction, there should actually be very little force exerted on the belt. Some sort of larger harness might be an option if it does become an issue.

mdigi 13y ago
A diaper-like seat would be a nice addition. With that kind of support user could be waving his legs forwards, backwards and even sideways with little to no problem.
- yaddayadda 13y ago
  Then all we'll need are astronaut diapers and, oh wait, things get weird when such diapers are involved http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/astronaut-love-triangle-attacker-lisa-nowak-wear-diaper/story?id=12932069 http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/astronaut-love-triangle-attacke...