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Do you think "in a sense" that the EU nations should abandon SIGINT and stick to good old fashioned HUMINT? Or maybe a middle of the road position and just have
by dfc 13y ago
Do you think "in a sense" that the EU nations should abandon SIGINT and stick to good old fashioned HUMINT? Or maybe a middle of the road position and just have the Five Eyes abstain from SIGINT?
- venomsnake 13y agoWell I have yet to see something about direct spying and intrusion in US networks by EU government agencies. Also yeah - the whole dragnets should be scaled back for various reasons. If you intercept and retain everything you have insane SNR that can prove counterproductive in the long run. Very intensive spying on allies is impolite at best.
- dfc 13y agoThe thing about intelligence work is that your failures are public and successes are secret. I think your last sentence is hopelessly naive.
- nitrogen 13y agoSo make the successes public in full detail.
- dfc 13y agoI cant tell if this is a legitimate response or if you are being obtuse.
- nitrogen 13y agoI'm being serious. HN is nothing if not ultra-rational (or so we claim). Evidence trumps all. Prove surveillance works, that it's necessary, works better than any conceivable alternative, and that the damage to society is worth it, and your empirical proof will be accepted.
- adventured 13y ago"France is top industrial espionage offender [against Germany]" http://www.france24.com/en/20110104-france-industrial-espionage-economy-germany-russia-china-business http://www.france24.com/en/20110104-france-industrial-espion... And yet allies do it constantly. I'm skeptical that polite applies in this context when you consider history.
- uvdiv 13y agoHere's the cable for that: https://www.aftenposten.no/spesial/wikileaksdokumenter/article3972436.ece https://www.aftenposten.no/spesial/wikileaksdokumenter/artic...