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I see more problems than benefits. 1. Poverty is a relative term. Giving the entire population a basic income would shift everyone up, but ultimately it's a ze
by flyinglizard 13y ago
I see more problems than benefits.
1. Poverty is a relative term. Giving the entire population a basic income would shift everyone up, but ultimately it's a zero sum game. Obviously, the additional income will be marginal for high earners and the income gap will largely remain.
2. Massive distribution of money tends to be inflationary. As purchasing power and demand go up, so does the market pricing. Think of rent prices around poor neighborhoods for example.
3. It will not mitigate the "reverse Darwinism" that occurs across the socioeconomic layers. High earners have neutral or negative population growth, while the poor are procreating at a much higher rate. This phenomena crosses communities, countries and continents. It's the reason some rich European countries have declining indigenous population, with any growth attributed to poor immigrants.
4. It reduces the incentive to adapt to the new employment situation.
5. It does nothing to curb to social unrest that will happen due to income gaps. I don't want to sound like "The Man", but in effect this has the potential to make the income gap much more volatile; a large portion of the population that's idle and feels neglected is a massive unrest waiting for a cause.
The talks of automation as if it's the end of the materialistic society - as everything is produced effortlessly and cost effectively - are premature. We'll be there when we ultimately master the matter at a particle level (think of the Culture novels).
Society can, and will adapt to the added manufacturing capabilities with strong demand for better products and services. In fact, I think automation will be the saving grace of manufacturing in the first world nations.
As controversial as it sounds, I think the solution lies in balancing the growth across the different socioeconomic levels. There should be a policy of encouraging growth across the upper echelons of society, while discouraging the growth among the lower ranks:
1. Immediately, it will reduce poverty levels;
2. It will provide a better opportunity to take care of low income families, including government sponsored education, health and food programs;
3. In the long run, it will be the most effective redistribution tool of wealth. For every kid the Walton family had, each of the others had billions less in inheritance.
Accumulation of individual wealth is greatly amplified when successful families make 1 or 2 children. If they have an average of 4 children, the transfer of wealth between and across generations will be more reasonable.
The current situation of the financially weakest population multiplying in the quickest rate is bad for everyone (first and foremost to themselves); it is a demographic and economic dead end. No matter how much you try patching it with wealth redistribution, you WILL eventually "run out of other people's money".
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- michas 13y agoIncome redistribution is just a fancy name for stealing. Everyone should have just as much money as he is capable of earning. There is nothing wrong in high income gap. It's existence is just an evidence that society works as expected. Redistribution is just a way of punishing smart and hardworking people for their success and reward the rest of society for their laziness. This would surely end in a disaster: people loose motivation to do anything, because they cannot see any correlation between their effort and income. This is also known as "learned helplessness" and will occur in most of middle class people. Also, nothing depraves people more that money got without effort.
- dasil003 13y ago> Income redistribution is just a fancy name for stealing. And many of world's greatest fortunes were and are created by stealing and other equally immoral practices. Your apparent ideology that government taxation is inherently evil, and capitalist markets are inherently good is incredibly naïve.
- michas 13y agoIt is a role of the state to prevent creating fortunes by stealing. Guarantying fair rules of making business, prevent cheating and stealing is a prerequisite for capitalist market to even exist. That's a government role to provide such conditions by creating and enforcing the law. That's also the only thing that money from taxes should be used for. Capitalist markets are good because they allow people to have a vote in everything that concerns them. But instead of putting their vote in a ballot box they vote with their money, which has much more power.
- rbanffy 13y ago> It is a role of the state to prevent creating fortunes by stealing. If you can point to even one single state that has successfully done so, it would be of immense help to this discussion. > But instead of putting their vote in a ballot box they vote with their money, which has much more power. This way you reintroduce http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffrage#Census_suffrage http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffrage#Census_suffrage.