10 ms·

So you fight for a better world seeking protection from the scum of the world? Damn contradiction.

by Thiz 13y ago

adventured 13y ago
Not a contradiction in the least. The US is plenty scummy these days. It's busy completely violating the rights of its citizens, ignoring its own governing documents, acting just like a violent, thuggish 3rd world banana government. In fact, its behavior is exactly what I would expect out of someone like Hugo Chavez. Enemy of thy enemy. It makes perfect sense. What you've got now is a showdown between scumbag nations.
lhnz 13y ago
Why are you so sure? [0] [0] http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/03/why-us-dcemonises-venezuelas-democracy http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/03/why-us-d...
alan_cx 13y ago
Who defines the scum of the earth? You? The so called leaders of the free world? Anything non western or not allied to the US is scum? If you are fighting against the hypocrisy and frankly tyranny of the west, where would you go to be protected? All that's left is allies, like the UK who will just hand you over, or as you put it, "scum". Whether you like it or not, he has very little choice, the US has too many countries in its pocket. You argument is down there with the other weasel language (hero, patriot, anti-American, what have you got to hide, etc) deployed against whistle blowers. So, where you go to try to be safe? Or are you too "patriotic", or is it scared, to ever criticize or expose the US? You want "damn contradiction"? How about claiming to be leaders of the free world while industrially mass spying on the so called free citizens you claim to lead?
dasil003 13y ago
The thing that makes the American propoganda so powerful is that the US Constitution really is an amazing document created with the best of intents. So much so that it becomes very easy to whitewash the universal and permanent truth that government power is dangerous and corrupting.
vidarh 13y ago
History is full of examples of strange bedfellows as a result of mutual enemies. It is often the only realistic alternative when you face a massive strong opponent. There's no contradiction in it unless you start providing support to said scum. This also presumes that we agree with your assessment of who is the bigger scum. The Cuban government is easily more repressive to its own people, but the US government murders far more innocents, for example.

So you fight for a better world seeking protection from the scum of the world? Damn contradiction.

by Thiz 13y ago

So you fight for a better world seeking protection from the scum of the world? Damn contradiction.

Not a contradiction in the least. The US is plenty scummy these days. It's busy completely violating the rights of its citizens, ignoring its own governing documents, acting just like a violent, thuggish 3rd world banana government. In fact, its behavior is exactly what I would expect out of someone like Hugo Chavez. Enemy of thy enemy. It makes perfect sense. What you've got now is a showdown between scumbag nations.

lhnz 13y ago

Why are you so sure? [0] [0] http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/03/why-us-dcemonises-venezuelas-democracy http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/03/why-us-d...

alan_cx 13y ago

Who defines the scum of the earth? You? The so called leaders of the free world? Anything non western or not allied to the US is scum? If you are fighting against the hypocrisy and frankly tyranny of the west, where would you go to be protected? All that's left is allies, like the UK who will just hand you over, or as you put it, "scum". Whether you like it or not, he has very little choice, the US has too many countries in its pocket. You argument is down there with the other weasel language (hero, patriot, anti-American, what have you got to hide, etc) deployed against whistle blowers. So, where you go to try to be safe? Or are you too "patriotic", or is it scared, to ever criticize or expose the US? You want "damn contradiction"? How about claiming to be leaders of the free world while industrially mass spying on the so called free citizens you claim to lead?

dasil003 13y ago

The thing that makes the American propoganda so powerful is that the US Constitution really is an amazing document created with the best of intents. So much so that it becomes very easy to whitewash the universal and permanent truth that government power is dangerous and corrupting.

vidarh 13y ago

History is full of examples of strange bedfellows as a result of mutual enemies. It is often the only realistic alternative when you face a massive strong opponent. There's no contradiction in it unless you start providing support to said scum. This also presumes that we agree with your assessment of who is the bigger scum. The Cuban government is easily more repressive to its own people, but the US government murders far more innocents, for example.