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No can do. The LatAM will change leadership and he'd be screwed sooner or later. Sadly, USA probably pushed him to commit treason and spill the guts on what USA

No can do. The LatAM will change leadership and he'd be screwed sooner or later. Sadly, USA probably pushed him to commit treason and spill the guts on what USA does to China. He's very valuable to the Chinese; USA should have granted him a pardon, if he stopped talking and secured the materials. Bad precedent but...

dnautics 13y ago
how is what he spilled treason? Article III: "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court."
- joelrunyon 13y ago
  Feinstein accused him of "treason" http://thehill.com/blogs/defcon-hill/policy-and-strategy/304573-sen-feinstein-snowdens-leaks-are-treason http://thehill.com/blogs/defcon-hill/policy-and-strategy/304... In which case, we're assuming that we're at war with either the entire world or ourselves. Either one puts us in a bad spot.
- drgath 13y ago
  They don't need to actually convict him, only accuse him so he can be locked up indefinitely.
  - dnautics 13y ago
    point taken
anigbrowl 13y ago
He's been charged with espionage, not treason. Feinstein and Boehner's masturbatory public comments don't actually count for anything.
b6 13y ago
We are not at war with China, and should not be, and hopefully never will be. As an American who has lived in China for two years, the Chinese people are our friends/family. It's only government psychopaths who seem to want each country to be its own secretive cult whose members hate other cults. Snowden's just providing proof that, despite what it always says, it's actually the US that is belligerent and bellicose, attacking everyone, even supposed allies.
- api 13y ago
  "It's only government psychopaths who seem to want each country to be its own secretive cult whose members hate other cults." Of course. That's the best rationale for increasing the size of government.

dnautics 13y ago

how is what he spilled treason? Article III: "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court."

joelrunyon 13y ago
Feinstein accused him of "treason" http://thehill.com/blogs/defcon-hill/policy-and-strategy/304573-sen-feinstein-snowdens-leaks-are-treason http://thehill.com/blogs/defcon-hill/policy-and-strategy/304... In which case, we're assuming that we're at war with either the entire world or ourselves. Either one puts us in a bad spot.
drgath 13y ago
They don't need to actually convict him, only accuse him so he can be locked up indefinitely.
- dnautics 13y ago
  point taken

anigbrowl 13y ago

He's been charged with espionage, not treason. Feinstein and Boehner's masturbatory public comments don't actually count for anything.

b6 13y ago

We are not at war with China, and should not be, and hopefully never will be. As an American who has lived in China for two years, the Chinese people are our friends/family. It's only government psychopaths who seem to want each country to be its own secretive cult whose members hate other cults. Snowden's just providing proof that, despite what it always says, it's actually the US that is belligerent and bellicose, attacking everyone, even supposed allies.

api 13y ago
"It's only government psychopaths who seem to want each country to be its own secretive cult whose members hate other cults." Of course. That's the best rationale for increasing the size of government.