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"Who knew in 2008 that during the Obama administration it may get to the point of people wishing for the good ol' days of George W. Bush?" C'mon man, why does
by rapind 13y ago
"Who knew in 2008 that during the Obama administration it may get to the point of people wishing for the good ol' days of George W. Bush?"
C'mon man, why does everything have to be partisan? Can't you just admit that both of your major parties are douches and do something about it, instead of arguing about who's worse? It ends up hijacking the entire thread.
The whole republican v.s. democrat thing is just a tired facade... Kind of obvious by now isn't it?
- steve19 13y agoI don't think he was saying that Bush or Republicans are better, rather the opposite. Back when GWB was in power he was widely deride as a tyrant (especially online) and the worst thing to happen to American foreign relations ever. Yet it would not be hard to make an argument that Obama has been worse with regards to civil liberties and foreign relations. Different guy, different party, same (or worse) policies. Also remember Obama was (re)elected only some months ago.
- rapind 13y agoOK, I get it, however I just don't think it's productive to argue over who's the bigger tyrant. It's a fixation that tends to drown out all other potentially meaningful and / or productive conversation.
- Andrew_Quentin 13y agoI think you missed the point. He was basically saying that Obama and Bush are the same.
- lallysingh 13y agoIMHO the problem lies in the winner-take-all voting system. A vote for a third party just counts "against" the primary one you would've voted for if the 3rd wasn't there.
- seanmcdirmid 13y agoIt also prevents the crazies in the green and libertarian parties from getting any real power. And they do have extreme platforms that most Americans would not stand for.
- intelliot 13y agoGreat point. The real choice is between liberty and statism. And the difference between republicans and democrats on this point is truly minuscule.